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Old Wed Dec 29, 2010, 09:12am
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We often take the official book to both coaches and have them approve it.

"coach is this your official roster?" they look it over and approve it or correct it before the 10 minute mark....
Here in Texas, we take the official book to each coach and have them check it and sign it under their list of players. I find it an odd practice, but do it because everyone else does it. If I am told a player from the visiting team is not in the book, I will still ask for the supplied list before assessing a T. The signature really means nothing "officially".
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Old Wed Dec 29, 2010, 09:30am
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Here in Texas, we take the official book to each coach and have them check it and sign it under their list of players. I find it an odd practice, but do it because everyone else does it. If I am told a player from the visiting team is not in the book, I will still ask for the supplied list before assessing a T. The signature really means nothing "officially".
We have some officials in our chapter that do that but I haven't noticed it universally being practiced around our parts. I haven't heard any formal instruction surrounding this either.
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Old Wed Dec 29, 2010, 09:33am
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We have some officials in our chapter that do that but I haven't noticed it universally being practiced around our parts. I haven't heard any formal instruction surrounding this either.
Maybe it's a regional thing. I've never heard it described in any meetings as a required practice, but everyone in the Dallas and North Texas chapter seems to do it, so I do as well when I'm the R. They seem to like blowing the whistle to indicate their presence when they enter the floor as well - I still don't do that.
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Old Wed Dec 29, 2010, 09:42am
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They seem to like blowing the whistle to indicate their presence when they enter the floor as well - I still don't do that.
Now this is a common practice around here. Several other Texans on here have said the same for their area.

I haven't found the need to do it yet but I'm not working a whole lot of games with above the rim action at this point.
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Old Wed Dec 29, 2010, 10:35am
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Suppose in the OP, the visiting bookkeeper was sitting with the home scorer and V12 comes to table to report. Official book says "I got no V12" and visiting keeper says "Oh, you must have left him off, his name is Bird, Larry" Home book just adds Larry and in he goes. They tell the officials LATER. It's now "discovered", but it's already "occurred".
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Old Wed Dec 29, 2010, 10:50am
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Suppose in the OP, the visiting bookkeeper was sitting with the home scorer and V12 comes to table to report. Official book says "I got no V12" and visiting keeper says "Oh, you must have left him off, his name is Bird, Larry" Home book just adds Larry and in he goes. They tell the officials LATER. It's now "discovered", but it's already "occurred".
I would be very, very happy. Play on.
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Old Wed Dec 29, 2010, 10:51am
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Suppose in the OP, the visiting bookkeeper was sitting with the home scorer and V12 comes to table to report. Official book says "I got no V12" and visiting keeper says "Oh, you must have left him off, his name is Bird, Larry" Home book just adds Larry and in he goes. They tell the officials LATER. It's now "discovered", but it's already "occurred".
Play on and explain to the home coach that it was his scorer who made the addition without telling us in the proper time frame.
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Old Wed Dec 29, 2010, 11:12am
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Suppose in the OP, the visiting bookkeeper was sitting with the home scorer and V12 comes to table to report. Official book says "I got no V12" and visiting keeper says "Oh, you must have left him off, his name is Bird, Larry" Home book just adds Larry and in he goes. They tell the officials LATER. It's now "discovered", but it's already "occurred".
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Play on and explain to the home coach that it was his scorer who made the addition without telling us in the proper time frame.
Or tell him that the name was in the visiting scorebook and his scorer failed to copy it down.
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Old Wed Dec 29, 2010, 11:47am
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Suppose in the OP, the visiting bookkeeper was sitting with the home scorer and V12 comes to table to report. Official book says "I got no V12" and visiting keeper says "Oh, you must have left him off, his name is Bird, Larry" Home book just adds Larry and in he goes. They tell the officials LATER. It's now "discovered", but it's already "occurred".
If it's not penalized when the name is added, it's too late to penalize.

There's a case or interp on this.
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Old Wed Dec 29, 2010, 12:38pm
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There's a case or interp on this.
TEAM TECHNICALS
10.1.2 SITUATION: (a) Three minutes prior to the start of the game; or (b) during a time-out in the second quarter of play, the Team B coach requests the scorer to add a name to the team list or change a team member's number in the scorebook. When is the penalty invoked for this administrative infraction? RULING: The infraction occurs when the scorer is advised to add to or change the scorebook. The foul must be charged when it occurs and enforced when the ball next becomes live. Once the ball has become live, it is too late to penalize.
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