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Old Mon Dec 27, 2010, 05:23pm
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after the free thrower has the ball, he accidently dribbles the ball off his foot and it rolls down the lane.
what do we have?
nothing (do over)?
a bad shot?
violation?
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2010, 05:32pm
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According to 9.1.1, you have a violation.

In reality however, depending on the level of ball, you might get a TWEET, TWEET, TWEET! and a reset.
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2010, 05:33pm
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after the free thrower has the ball, he accidently dribbles the ball off his foot and it rolls down the lane.
what do we have?
nothing (do over)?
a bad shot?
violation?
Be paying attention and blow it dead asap. Reset the free throw; a new 10-second count, etc.
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2010, 05:39pm
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According to 9.1.1, you have a violation.

In reality however, depending on the level of ball, you might get a TWEET, TWEET, TWEET! and a reset.
The level of ball should be below jv....or in a game that's outa sight.
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2010, 05:46pm
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after the free thrower has the ball, he accidently dribbles the ball off his foot and it rolls down the lane. what do we have?
nothing (do over)?a bad shot? violation?
If the shooter had control after the lead bounced to to him: Violation.

If the shooter fumbled it after the lead bounced to to him without ever gaining control: Whistle and do over.

Wasn't there a recent interpretation on this that may have been a change from what we did in the past?
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2010, 05:50pm
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9.1.1 situation ...
A1, at the free-throw line to attempt a free throw: (a) muffs
the pass from the official and it rolls forward; or (b) while performing his/her
habitual dribbles prior to the release, accidentally allows the ball to deflect off
his/her foot into the lane. RULING: In (a), the official should sound the whistle to
prevent any violations and then start the free throw procedure again. No freethrow
violation should be called in this situation. In (b), a free-throw violation
shall be called on A1. (9-1-3a, e)
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Old Mon Dec 27, 2010, 07:40pm
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Wasn't there a recent interpretation on this that may have been a change from what we did in the past?
2007-08 NFHS Case Book
9.1.1 SITUATION: A1, at the free throw line to attempt a free throw (a) muffs the pass from the official and it rolls forward; or (b) accidentally drops the ball before the throwing motion is started.

RULING: In (a) and (b) the official should sound the whistle to prevent any violations and then start the free throw procedure again. No free-throw violation should be called in this situation.
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A1, at the free-throw line to attempt a free throw: (a) muffs
the pass from the official and it rolls forward; or (b) while performing his/her
habitual dribbles prior to the release, accidentally allows the ball to deflect off
his/her foot into the lane. RULING: In (a), the official should sound the whistle to
prevent any violations and then start the free throw procedure again. No freethrow
violation should be called in this situation. In (b), a free-throw violation
shall be called on A1. (9-1-3a, e)
It also reads the same in the 2009-2010 casebook.
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What about when free throw shooter dribbles ball, loses control but ball stays inside semi-circle and shooter retrieves it, is this a violation also?
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2010, 01:04am
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What about when free throw shooter dribbles ball, loses control but ball stays inside semi-circle and shooter retrieves it, is this a violation also?
why would this be a violation?
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why would this be a violation?
It wouldn't.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2010, 01:59am
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It wouldn't.
I was hoping the question asker would come to that conclusion his/her self.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2010, 06:55am
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I was hoping the question asker would come to that conclusion his/her self.
loses control but ball stays inside
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2010, 08:54am
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2007-08 NFHS Case Book
9.1.1 SITUATION: A1, at the free throw line to attempt a free throw (a) muffs the pass from the official and it rolls forward; or (b) accidentally drops the ball before the throwing motion is started. RULING: In (a) and (b) the official should sound the whistle to prevent any violations and then start the free throw procedure again. No free-throw violation should be called in this situation.
Bingo. Thanks. I knew that there was a recent change.
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