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Adam Wed Dec 22, 2010 01:11pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 709380)
The Penn State Women's Volleyball team had a win streak of 109 matches going until it was broken in September. Why aren't they getting more press than UConn?

It's nice that they have a record for Women's Basketball...but that's all it is.

If all this hype had come when they surpassed the previous women's record, I'd understand more. Acting as if it has anything to do with Wooden's record, however, is a turn-off.

just another ref Wed Dec 22, 2010 01:21pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 709384)
If all this hype had come when they surpassed the previous women's record, I'd understand more. Acting as if it has anything to do with Wooden's record, however, is a turn-off.

What was the previous women's record, and who held it?

Anyone know?





Or care?

Rich Wed Dec 22, 2010 01:25pm

The real turn off is listening to any interview involving Auriemma. Could the chip on his shoulder be any bigger? Every time he shows up on a TV interview, I just want to walk up to it and give him a smack.

We've been force fed Women's College Basketball for some reason in this country despite them not being able to draw flies in 99.9% of the venues in the US. If we as a nation don't care, why is it promoted so heavily? Oh, I know this answer -- ESPN broadcasts the tournament and is just promoting the sports it covers. It's also why you see no hockey highlights anymore on SportsCenter.

Rich Wed Dec 22, 2010 01:26pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 709390)
What was the previous women's record, and who held it?

Anyone know?





Or care?

It was UConn and 70 games. I saw it in an article this morning. And no, I don't care.

Adam Wed Dec 22, 2010 01:33pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 709395)
It was UConn and 70 games. I saw it in an article this morning. And no, I don't care.

I was actually grumpy that I knew that, to be honest. I could have (of) put other information in that spot.

BBrules Wed Dec 22, 2010 01:33pm

Uh...not really
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 709380)
The Penn State Women's Volleyball team had a win streak of 109 matches going until it was broken in September. Why aren't they getting more press than UConn?

It's nice that they have a record for Women's Basketball...but that's all it is.

Nope.
In addition to the women's record, they also have the record for the most consecutive wins in NCAA basketball. Not soccer, volleyball, cricket, or tiddly-winks. NCAA basketball. It's a remarkable feat regardless of gender.

Adam Wed Dec 22, 2010 01:39pm

No, they have the record for womens' basketball and that's it.

Just as you don't compare NCAA baseball and softball records, you can't compare mens' and womens' basketball records.

It's like comparing Favre's streak of starts with Ripken's streak.

ref3808 Wed Dec 22, 2010 01:44pm

Congratulations
 
This is an impressive program that set an equally impressive mark in which several teams were involved. Speaks well for the quality of female athlete/player that UCONN is able to draw.

However, the women's NCAA game is completely different than the men's game so let's just appreciate an impressive feat and move on.

I for one will make time to watch a final this year, if it comes to pass, between Baylor and UNCONN. Until then, I don't see myself making women's NCAA hoops into any sort of appointment television. (sorry ESPN)

Adam Wed Dec 22, 2010 01:51pm

Maybe part of my problem is my complete disdain for Coach Aurienema. He's like coach Krewsewooski but without the redeeming charm.

Rich Wed Dec 22, 2010 02:05pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 709401)
Maybe part of my problem is my complete disdain for Coach Aurienema. He's like coach Krewsewooski but without the redeeming charm.

You and I feel the exact same way. Every time I see the d-bag on TV I change the channel. I can't watch SportsCenter this morning, that's for sure.

BBrules Wed Dec 22, 2010 02:11pm

Nope
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 709399)
No, they have the record for womens' basketball and that's it.

Just as you don't compare NCAA baseball and softball records, you can't compare mens' and womens' basketball records.

It's like comparing Favre's streak of starts with Ripken's streak.

I'm not talking about comparing volleyball to rugby or soccer to lacross - I'm talking about basketball. Whether you (or I) like it or not UConn now has the record for the most college wins in basketball as is evidenced by the copied headline below:

December 21 2010 Last updated at 09:13 PM ET
UConn Women Break Record for Most Consecutive Wins in College Basketball

"Maybe part of my problem is my complete disdain for Coach Aurienema. He's like coach Krewsewooski but without the redeeming charm."

I totally agree, at least 100%, with your view above of their coach. He's a toad.

Adam Wed Dec 22, 2010 02:19pm

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Originally Posted by BBrules (Post 709407)
I'm not talking about comparing volleyball to rugby or soccer to lacross - I'm talking about basketball. Whether you (or I) like it or not UConn now has the record for the most college wins in basketball as is evidenced by the copied headline below:

December 21 2010 Last updated at 09:13 PM ET
UConn Women Break Record for Most Consecutive Wins in College Basketball

"Maybe part of my problem is my complete disdain for Coach Aurienema. He's like coach Krewsewooski but without the redeeming charm."

I totally agree, at least 100%, with your view above of their coach. He's a toad.

I couldn't care less what the headline says. No one is arguing that they won more consecutive games than UCLA did. I'm telling you they're separate records.
Just like you can't compare mens' baseball records to the female version, or mens' and womens' soccre. I'm not even using different sports here. Even in the 60's, mens' college basketball had more parity than modern day women's ball.

Cobra Wed Dec 22, 2010 02:42pm

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Originally Posted by BBrules (Post 709407)
I'm not talking about comparing volleyball to rugby or soccer to lacross - I'm talking about basketball.

You are comparing basketball to women's basketball....there is a big difference. The women are just so slow, so unskilled, so nonathletic, that it is a completely different sport. The sports are not comparable in any way. As was said earlier you could go find 10 guys at the average YMCA that could go out and beat the UCONN team.

BBrules Wed Dec 22, 2010 02:54pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 709409)
I couldn't care less what the headline says. No one is arguing that they won more consecutive games than UCLA did. I'm telling you they're separate records.
Just like you can't compare mens' baseball records to the female version, or mens' and womens' soccre. I'm not even using different sports here. Even in the 60's, mens' college basketball had more parity than modern day women's ball.

Whether you care or not is irrelevant. Whether there is more parity now or before is irrelevant. What is, is. You seem to be under the false impression that there can only be two separate records, one for men and one for women. There is #3 "the most" period. You may not care, but it still belongs, now, to UConn. Yes, there can be 'the most consecutive wins in women's soccer' or 'men's soccer'. But there is also going to be a 'most consecutive wins by a college team.' Whether that is a men's team or a women's team, I have no idea and I'm not interested enough to look it up. But I can tell you who has it for basketball.

Adam Wed Dec 22, 2010 03:05pm

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Originally Posted by BBrules (Post 709418)
Whether you care or not is irrelevant. Whether there is more parity now or before is irrelevant. What is, is. You seem to be under the false impression that there can only be two separate records, one for men and one for women. There is #3 "the most" period. You may not care, but it still belongs, now, to UConn. Yes, there can be 'the most consecutive wins in women's soccer' or 'men's soccer'. But there is also going to be a 'most consecutive wins by a college team.' Whether that is a men's team or a women's team, I have no idea and I'm not interested enough to look it up. But I can tell you who has it for basketball.

Seriously, now I will say it. You could just as easily compare this record to the Penn State volleyball streak, or Edwin Moses' hurdle streak. They're different sports. And whether the NCAA recognizes this, I don't know. Do they? Or is this just a reason for ESPN to bump up their ratings, and for women's basketball fans and employees to try to say their sport is on par with the men's game?

Parity does matter. It's why this streak isn't as impressive as Wooden's streak.


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