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Adam Tue Dec 21, 2010 01:00pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 708986)
All lunar eclipses occur during a full moon. Every single one of them. No such thing as a crescent, gibbous, first quarter, last quarter, or new moon, lunar eclipse.

Rule reference?

26 Year Gap Tue Dec 21, 2010 01:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 708986)
All lunar eclipses occur during a full moon. Every single one of them. No such thing as a crescent, gibbous, first quarter, last quarter, or new moon, lunar eclipse.

However, a full moon CAN occur without a lunar eclipse. And there was a full moon before and after the event.

Camron Rust Tue Dec 21, 2010 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 708986)
All lunar eclipses occur during a full moon. Every single one of them. No such thing as a crescent, gibbous, first quarter, last quarter, or new moon, lunar eclipse.

Of course...just like a solar eclipse can only happen during a new moon.

bob jenkins Tue Dec 21, 2010 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 708992)
However, a full moon CAN occur without a lunar eclipse. And there was a full moon before and after the event.

It's possible (I'm not going to look it up) that under a very strict definition, a "full moon" lasts only an instant. The moon would be a waxing gibbous the instant earlier and a waning gibbous an instant after.

26 Year Gap Tue Dec 21, 2010 01:25pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 708997)
It's possible (I'm not going to look it up) that under a very strict definition, a "full moon" lasts only an instant. The moon would be a waxing gibbous the instant earlier and a waning gibbous an instant after.

But it is also factual that a lunar eclipse is a subset of the full moon.

BillyMac Tue Dec 21, 2010 02:25pm

Astronomy Today ...
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 708908)
With the full moon & lunar eclipse.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 708934)
Redundant. Lunar eclipse will suffice.

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 708945)
No, they're not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 708986)
All lunar eclipses occur during a full moon. Every single one of them. No such thing as a crescent, gibbous, first quarter, last quarter, or new moon, lunar eclipse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 708989)
Rule reference?

My B.S and M.S. in Earth Science. Twenty years of teaching high school Earth Science.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 708992)
However, a full moon can occur without a lunar eclipse.

Correct. It happens quite often. Ten to thirteen times a year, usually eleven per year.

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 708992)
And there was a full moon before and after the event.

As well as during the event. The moon was still in its full phase during the entire eclipse.

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 708996)
Of course, just like a solar eclipse can only happen during a new moon.

Correct.

OK. Maybe redundant was the wrong word. "With the full moon & lunar eclipse" is kind of like saying, "I've got a five cent nickel (referring to 21st century American coins). I'm sure that mbyron will be along shortly to tell us what was wrong, if anything, with the statement, "With the full moon & lunar eclipse".

BillyMac Tue Dec 21, 2010 02:36pm

Always Listen To bob
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 708997)
It's possible that under a very strict definition, a "full moon" lasts only an instant. The moon would be a waxing gibbous the instant earlier and a waning gibbous an instant after.

Yes. However a specific phase, like full, first quarter, last quarter, or new, is often considered to last one day. Cool reference to waxing gibbous, and waning gibbous. I wish more people were as scientifically literate.

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 709005)
But it is also factual that a lunar eclipse is a subset of the full moon.

Sounds good.

bob jenkins Tue Dec 21, 2010 02:39pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 709005)
But it is also factual that a lunar eclipse is a subset of the full moon.

Right. And Billy said that "full moon and lunar eclipse" was redundant. He meant "wordy." Just saying "lunar eclipse" would be sufficient.

mbyron Tue Dec 21, 2010 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 709005)
But it is also factual that a lunar eclipse is a subset of the full moon.

No it's not. Neither a lunar eclipse nor a full moon is a set, so neither can be a subset of the other. :p

Perhaps you mean that the set of lunar eclipses is a proper subset of the set of full moons? It makes more sense to say this without set theory, IMO.

I think I'm going to have a great game tonight. This thread is making me a better official. :D

BillyMac Tue Dec 21, 2010 06:21pm

Education Is The Key To Success ...
 
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 709036)
I think I'm going to have a great game tonight. This thread is making me a better official.

Didn't you want to type your post in a blue font?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...126d&index=ch1

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 21, 2010 06:31pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 709093)
Didn't you want to type your post in a blue font?

Not unless he wants to be spatchcocked too.....:eek:

BillyMac Tue Dec 21, 2010 06:42pm

I Need A Place To Sleep ...
 
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 709098)
Not unless he wants to be spatchcocked too.

I would have never, in a million years, guessed that this would have turned into a cooking forum. Never. I would have bet my house on it.

26 Year Gap Tue Dec 21, 2010 07:26pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 709093)
Didn't you want to type your post in a blue font?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...126d&index=ch1

I just hope he doesn't end up mooning the crowd, which would eclipse all of his prior embarrassments in life.

BillyMac Tue Dec 21, 2010 07:55pm

Sha-Na-Na ...
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 709113)
I just hope he doesn't end up mooning the crowd, which would eclipse all of his prior embarrassments in life.

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We have pictures of you so-called "mooners!" And just because the pictures aren't of your faces doesn't mean we can't identify you! At this very moment, those pictures are on their way to Washington, where the FBI has experts in this type of identification. If you turn yourselves in now, you may escape a federal charge!

mbyron: Thanks. It works.


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