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Old Sun Dec 19, 2010, 12:47am
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I have had to send someone for one team on a couple of occasions, but that is the name of the game...Take action with 2:00 on the clock and all is well.
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Old Sun Dec 19, 2010, 01:39am
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Saw a playoff game last year.

Officials came back on to the floor with maybe 30 seconds left on the clock, when Team B wasn't there at 0:00, called a Technical foul. No 1 minute on the clock. No getting the timer to initiate an "SOS" via horn soundings. I was not impressed. Would have felt they were in a stronger position if the crew was back on the floor earlier working to get the team back.
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Old Sun Dec 19, 2010, 04:16am
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Resuming play is not used following halftime. Resuming play is when both teams are present and have been present but not responding to the signals to resume play.

After halftime, the team has 1 full minute after halftime expires before the T is charged. Until that time has elapsed, nothing is done.

See 10-1-5:
Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest, this includes the following and similar acts:
a. When the clock is not running consuming a full minute through not being ready when it is time to start either half.

b. Delay the game by preventing the ball.....See 7-5-1....for the resumption of play procudure to use.....The procedure is used prior to charging a technical foul in these specific situations

The specific situations referred to in part "b" of this rule only apply on timeouts, the intermission between the 1st and 2nd quarters, and the intermissions between the 3rd and 4th quarters. Not the halftime intermissions. Part "a" covers the return from halftime. If part b were to apply after halftime, part "a" wouldn't need to exist and couldn't be reached.
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Old Sun Dec 19, 2010, 11:15am
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10-1-5a.
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10-1-5.
Thanks guys. That's the citation that I was looking for.
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Old Sun Dec 19, 2010, 06:55pm
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Resuming play is not used following halftime.
I think that's true in NCAA, but not in FED. See 4-38 (FED, 2009-10 book)
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I think that's true in NCAA, but not in FED. See 4-38 (FED, 2009-10 book)
NFHS 4-38: RESUMPTION-OF-PLAY PROCEDURE
The resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay in putting the ball in
play when a throw-in team does not make a thrower available or following a timeout
or intermission (unless either team is not on the court to start the second
half) as in 7-5-1 and 8-1-2. The procedure results in a violation instead of a
technical foul for initial delay in specific situations.

NFHS 10-1-5: A team shall not: Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest, this includes
the following and similar acts:
a. When the clock is not running consuming a full minute through not being
ready when it is time to start either half.
b. Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or
from being put in play. See 7-5-1 and 8-1-2 for the resumption-of-play
procedure to use after a time-out or the intermission between quarters. The
procedure is used prior to charging a technical foul in these specific
situations.
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Old Sun Dec 19, 2010, 07:21pm
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I think that's true in NCAA, but not in FED. See 4-38 (FED, 2009-10 book)
If you had quoted my entire post, you'd have realized that i was talking about when a team is not present when halftime ends.

I said: Resuming play is not used following halftime. Resuming play is when both teams are present and have been present but not responding to the signals to resume play.

RPP is not used following halftime if the reason is that a team is not present (the topic of this thread).
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Old Mon Dec 20, 2010, 08:55am
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If you had quoted my entire post, you'd have realized that i was talking about when a team is not present when halftime ends.

I said: Resuming play is not used following halftime. Resuming play is when both teams are present and have been present but not responding to the signals to resume play.

RPP is not used following halftime if the reason is that a team is not present (the topic of this thread).
But, in NCAA, it's not used at the start of the second half of any extra period EVEN IF a team is present in the bench area.

Contrast NCAA 4-56 with FED 4-38
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Old Sun Dec 19, 2010, 11:26am
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I have had to send someone for one team on a couple of occasions, but that is the name of the game...Take action with 2:00 on the clock and all is well.
Actually, the rules require you to take action at the 3:00 mark.

After that, the ball's in the coach's corner. Just do your job and let the chips fall where they may.
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