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mbyron Fri Dec 17, 2010 02:04pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 708156)
The one about the OOO and the black eye...you know.

Duh!:D

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Welpe Fri Dec 17, 2010 02:06pm

Ugh...I could have gone a lifetime without seeing another image from that rather disturbing collection ever again.

bainsey Fri Dec 17, 2010 02:54pm

I have to agree with the masses, Goodwill. That comment certainly will get someone in trouble at most workplaces, but let that school teach the kid a lesson about our good friend "sexual harrassment." We sports officials need only concern ourselves with genuine threats and violence (both physical and verbal). I don't think "Hey cutie" qualifies.

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 708115)
Your attitude makes me think you officiate high school soccer.

What's your motivation behind this comment, Mark?

Rich Fri Dec 17, 2010 03:03pm

Wouldn't have raised even one eyebrow on me. Some girl in the stands probably kicked the kid in the shins, anyway.

I had a kid toss a wallet on the floor next to my partner in an obvious joke during a timeout (he was administering the throw-in right by the student section). He got game management and made a huge deal out of it. I can guarantee (cause the AD told me later) that it made the official look like an OOO jerk. Me? I would've laughed and handed the kid his wallet back and probably told him he didn't make enough flipping burgers to buy me.

Matter of fact, I had a great time chatting with a student section the other night. And with a parent at the division line last night before the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters. Anything I can do to make it clear I'm having a good time and I'm human is OK with me.

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 17, 2010 03:18pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 708124)
I am an egalitarian......

I'm an Anglican.

Just saying.....

SNIPERBBB Fri Dec 17, 2010 03:19pm

Around here, it would take at least 4 years to live down threatening to remove the student section for something as lame as that. You'd definitely never live it down at that school as long as you do games there.

jdw3018 Fri Dec 17, 2010 03:21pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 708175)
Wouldn't have raised even one eyebrow on me. Some girl in the stands probably kicked the kid in the shins, anyway.

I had a kid toss a wallet on the floor next to my partner in an obvious joke during a timeout (he was administering the throw-in right by the student section). He got game management and made a huge deal out of it. I can guarantee (cause the AD told me later) that it made the official look like an OOO jerk. Me? I would've laughed and handed the kid his wallet back and probably told him he didn't make enough flipping burgers to buy me.

Matter of fact, I had a great time chatting with a student section the other night. And with a parent at the division line last night before the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters. Anything I can do to make it clear I'm having a good time and I'm human is OK with me.

Agree completely.

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 17, 2010 03:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 708175)
I had a kid toss a wallet on the floor next to my partner in an obvious joke during a timeout (he was administering the throw-in right by the student section). He got game management and made a huge deal out of it. I can guarantee (cause the AD told me later) that it made the official look like an OOO jerk. Me? I would've laughed and handed the kid his wallet back and probably told him he didn't make enough flipping burgers to buy me.

I would have cleaned the wallet out before handing it back to the kid. And then told him "thanks". See what he had to say about that. :D

jdw3018 Fri Dec 17, 2010 03:23pm

I'm in agreement with the clear majority that this wouldn't even cause me pause, let alone be enough for me to involve GM. However...

What if this statement was made in a clearly sarcastic and hurtful way toward a player who was quite unattractive, overweight, etc. Does this change anyone's feelings on how to handle the matter?

Loudwhistle Fri Dec 17, 2010 03:30pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 708186)
I would have cleaned the wallet out before handing it back to the kid. And then told him "thanks". See what he had to say about that. :D

I'd stuck the whole thing in my pocket and said, "thanks"!

BktBallRef Fri Dec 17, 2010 03:49pm

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 708118)
We all handle situations different, there isn't one big band-aid for all situations.

No band-aid is needed. This maybe the most ridiculous thing I ever heard of an official doing with regards to a fan.

It's not threatening, profane, vulgar, insulting, racist, sexist, humiliating....the list could go on and on. There is absolutely no reason in the world to even acknowledge that such a simple and innocent comment.

As for the black eye, most fans already have a poor opinion of officials. Everyone who heard the comment or knew what was going on left the building and told everyone they could about the jerk wearing the stripes. There was absolutely no reason whatsoever for you to do anything in that situation.

chseagle Fri Dec 17, 2010 04:28pm

Thanks for the tip!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 708175)
I had a kid toss a wallet on the floor next to my partner in an obvious joke during a timeout.


26 Year Gap Fri Dec 17, 2010 05:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 708186)
I would have cleaned the wallet out before handing it back to the kid. And then told him "thanks". See what he had to say about that. :D

Or at least laughed at the driver license photo. Assuming he had one.

BillyMac Fri Dec 17, 2010 06:09pm

And Occasionally Some Fish ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 708124)
I am an egalitarian.

Not me. I enjoy eating a little meat. I don't eat a lot of red meat, but I have chicken, or turkey, almost every night for dinner.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Dec 17, 2010 09:25pm

Making a short story into a long story, ;-).
 
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 708173)
I have to agree with the masses, Goodwill. That comment certainly will get someone in trouble at most workplaces, but let that school teach the kid a lesson about our good friend "sexual harrassment." We sports officials need only concern ourselves with genuine threats and violence (both physical and verbal). I don't think "Hey cutie" qualifies.



What's your motivation behind this comment, Mark?



Bainsey:

I officiated H.S. soccer from 1993 until 2005, and I have expierenced far too many partners, in NW Ohio, who think that the crowd is part of their domain.

Case in Point: The philosophy of the soccer officials association in Ohio to which I belonged during that time: A young official (early 20's, LOL; ah to be young and have hair again, :D) stood up and told the group that he had officiated a H.S. game the week before and the crowd (fans from both teams) were constantly yelling its displeasure with his calls (if both sides are mad then he must have been doing a good job, :D) and that by the end of the first half he could not concentrate on his officiating because the crowd's attitude toward his officiating. The concensus of the group was that he should have stopped the game and admonished the crowd regarding its unsportsmanlike behavior toward him that if if did not stop, he would take appropriate action. :eek: RFLMAO!! I had to stop the insanity and tell them they were all nuts, which I did, and then I addressed the young official directly. I told him that if the crowd was bothering him that much he had to do one of two things: (1) Either change is attitude and forget the crowd, Or, (2) Officiating is not for him and that he needs to find another outlet for his engeries. That did not go over well with the powers that be in the group.

MTD, Sr.


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