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rockyroad Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
Hmm, this brings up something a coach said to me the other night in a girls freshman game.

Coach was yelling across the floor at my partner "Foul! Travel! Foul!"

When the ball was dead, I went to the coach and said, "Coach, we're willing answer questions but yelling across the floor at us and demanding calls is not appropriate."

He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

I wish I had been carrying Mark Padgett around in my hip pocket for a clever comeback. Alas, I didn't have one.

This one would not have gotten a T from me, but I most certainly would have followed up as he walked away. A simple comment like "No one's feelings are hurt, Coach. Just trying to make sure everyone here behaves in a professional manner."

If he's too thick to get it at that point, there will probably end up being a T somewhere later in the game.

jeffpea Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
Hmm, this brings up something a coach said to me the other night in a girls freshman game.

Coach was yelling across the floor at my partner "Foul! Travel! Foul!"

When the ball was dead, I went to the coach and said, "Coach, we're willing answer questions but yelling across the floor at us and demanding calls is not appropriate."

He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

I wish I had been carrying Mark Padgett around in my hip pocket for a clever comeback. Alas, I didn't have one.

"coach, there's nothing you could say that would hurt my feelings. however, if you keep acting like a middle school coach you'll get a Technical!"

tomegun Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

Technical - blankety blank - foul!

AKOFL Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
Hmm, this brings up something a coach said to me the other night in a girls freshman game.

Coach was yelling across the floor at my partner "Foul! Travel! Foul!"

When the ball was dead, I went to the coach and said, "Coach, we're willing answer questions but yelling across the floor at us and demanding calls is not appropriate."

He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

I wish I had been carrying Mark Padgett around in my hip pocket for a clever comeback. Alas, I didn't have one.

" I hope not coach, because it's my last one.":D

Upward ref Fri Dec 10, 2010 04:37pm

Had to be there
 
We have a well respected BV coach in my district that gets somewhat fired up but never seems disrespectful. His teams always conduct them selves as gentlemen mostly as well. My sons and I were at a game of his last week, first game of the season for a fairly intense rivalry with the usually top ranked team. I noticed after a short conference with the referee the coach seemed to make his point and as the ref walked away ,coach swats him on the butt as a parting gesture! when I told my son to watch the next "short conference ", sure enough he did it again and my son was rolling in the bleachers laughing this time. I was steady thinking what I would do and I still am unsure. :)

Scratch85 Fri Dec 10, 2010 04:41pm

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Originally Posted by Upward ref (Post 706768)
We have a well respected BV coach in my district that gets somewhat fired up but never seems disrespectful. His teams always conduct them selves as gentlemen mostly as well. My sons and I were at a game of his last week, first game of the season for a fairly intense rivalry with the usually top ranked team. I noticed after a short conference with the referee the coach seemed to make his point and as the ref walked away ,coach swats him on the butt as a parting gesture! when I told my son to watch the next "short conference ", sure enough he did it again and my son was rolling in the bleachers laughing this time. I was steady thinking what I would do and I still am unsure. :)

Dont turn your back on him! :D

rsl Fri Dec 10, 2010 04:44pm

I'd never actually say it, but ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
Hmm, this brings up something a coach said to me the other night in a girls freshman game.

Coach was yelling across the floor at my partner "Foul! Travel! Foul!"

When the ball was dead, I went to the coach and said, "Coach, we're willing answer questions but yelling across the floor at us and demanding calls is not appropriate."

He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

I wish I had been carrying Mark Padgett around in my hip pocket for a clever comeback. Alas, I didn't have one.

How about "My feelings aren't hurt, but with you doing so much reffing I was wondering who was doing your coaching."

DLH17 Fri Dec 10, 2010 05:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsl (Post 706770)
how about "my feelings aren't hurt, but with you doing so much reffing i was wondering who was doing your coaching."

:d

Mark Padgett Fri Dec 10, 2010 05:23pm

"Coach - let's trade places. You come out here and call the game and I'll sit on the bench and act like a jacka$$."

BillyMac Fri Dec 10, 2010 07:36pm

I've Got Pretty Thick Skin ...
 
I'm on the "few and far between technicals" side of the officiating spectrum, but this situation would have led to the quickest, easiest, and most enthusiastic technical foul of my career.

tomegun Fri Dec 10, 2010 08:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 706808)
I'm on the "few and far between technicals" side of the officiating spectrum, but this situation would have led to the quickest, easiest, and most enthusiastic technical foul of my career.

IMO, this kind of thinking has the potential to do the game an injustice. An unsporting act is an unsporting act regardless of how thick your skin may be.

TimTaylor Sat Dec 11, 2010 03:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle (Post 706663)
..but, he who hesitates is lost....

NO, NO, NO - It's "He who has a Tate's is lost" :D:D:D:D

constable Sat Dec 11, 2010 03:16am

Automatic T.

They won't get much easier.

BillyMac Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:19am

Shades Of Gray ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 706813)
An unsporting act is an unsporting act regardless of how thick your skin may be.

Disagree. There's black, white, and gray.

Black areas may represent a situation where none of us, with the possible exception of the few of us who may be overly officious officials, with unbelievably thin skin, would ever charge a technical foul. First period, first complaint by coach, load enough to be only heard by players, coaches, and officials, "C'mon Billy, he traveled. We need a break".

White areas may represent a situation where almost all of us, with the possible exception of officials who are hearing impaired, will pretty much charge a technical foul every single time, almost automatically. "He traveled. Get your ****ing head in the game".

Gray areas may represent areas where the personality of the coach, the personality of the official, the stage of the game, the type of game, the relationship between the coach and the official, etc. all come into play. Situations that may be gray areas include those in which the coach's complaints are persistent, or those where the coach has interfered with the officials' concentration. One man's technical foul is another man's warning. Another man's warning is, yet, another man's decision to ignore. We're not robots.

SNIPERBBB Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:18am

If they start making personal comments, its time for a correction. A saying that goes around one of the local associations is "If a coach uses the words "You" or " you're"(in this case "They"), and the following words are not to the effect of "the best official ever", then dump 'em"

Again, try to use your best judgement.


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