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Bishopcolle Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:31am

Technical or Warning
 
GJV, Home Coach angry at not getting some calls, loudly enough for her entire bench to hear, tells #12, "Katie, you're not going to get those calls tonight. They're only JV Officials." I almost T'd her, but instead yelled a warning that that was her last shot...she heard me, but ignored me....Was I wrong?

Adam Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:38am

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Originally Posted by Bishopcolle (Post 706633)
GJV, Home Coach angry at not getting some calls, loudly enough for her entire bench to hear, tells #12, "Katie, you're not going to get those calls tonight. They're only JV Officials." I almost T'd her, but instead yelled a warning that that was her last shot...she heard me, but ignored me....Was I wrong?

T for that one.

bainsey Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:42am

I believe that's one you condone if you don't penalize. T.

referee99 Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:50am

Let's see.
 
Whack -- with enthusiasm!

Adam Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:54am

And when she asks why she got a T (because she will), just say it's because she hurt your feelings.

Seriously, this is a T every time.

fiasco Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:02am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 706654)
And when she asks why she got a T (because she will), just say it's because she hurt your feelings.

Hmm, this brings up something a coach said to me the other night in a girls freshman game.

Coach was yelling across the floor at my partner "Foul! Travel! Foul!"

When the ball was dead, I went to the coach and said, "Coach, we're willing answer questions but yelling across the floor at us and demanding calls is not appropriate."

He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

I wish I had been carrying Mark Padgett around in my hip pocket for a clever comeback. Alas, I didn't have one.

Bishopcolle Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 706654)
And when she asks why she got a T (because she will), just say it's because she hurt your feelings.

Seriously, this is a T every time.

I should have T'd her....I put air in the cheeks, and then hesitated....not my usual style for that type of coach-comment....but, he who hesitates is lost, so they say....thanks for the comments....

Adam Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:09am

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
Hmm, this brings up something a coach said to me the other night in a girls freshman game.

Coach was yelling across the floor at my partner "Foul! Travel! Foul!"

When the ball was dead, I went to the coach and said, "Coach, we're willing answer questions but yelling across the floor at us and demanding calls is not appropriate."

He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

I wish I had been carrying Mark Padgett around in my hip pocket for a clever comeback. Alas, I didn't have one.

I would have probably rolled my eyes at that one and moved on.

buckrog64 Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:17am

WHAP! No brainer to me. Pretty much anytime a coach tries to show up an official, especially in front of the kids, they are going to get whacked.

Welpe Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:18am

Oh yeah I'm serving T on this one. It's so easy after the fact isn't it? :)

chartrusepengui Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:26am

No Brainer WHACK!

zm1283 Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:34am

Had my first T of the season last night. GV game. Visiting HC had been warned already in the game for being out of the box complaining. I call a foul as Trail early in the 4th quarter on one of his girls who is trying to strip the ball from the home's point guard out front. After I report, he is standing there with his arms out to the side and starts chirping (He acted like a child all night...stomping around and trying to officiate for us). I give him the stop sign and tell him I've heard enough and the hand gestures need to stop. He starts to say something else and I keep my hand up, so he goes to sit down, but as he sits down he gives me the "wave off". Tweet....whack.

Didn't hear anything else the rest of the game.

fullor30 Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:39am

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Originally Posted by Bishopcolle (Post 706633)
GJV, Home Coach angry at not getting some calls, loudly enough for her entire bench to hear, tells #12, "Katie, you're not going to get those calls tonight. They're only JV Officials." I almost T'd her, but instead yelled a warning that that was her last shot...she heard me, but ignored me....Was I wrong?


Early T time. She wants to be T'd

"technical foul on only the JV coach"

slow whistle Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:42am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 706688)
Early T time. She wants to be T'd

"technical foul on only the JV coach"

ha ha exactly! nice to meet you pot, my name's kettle!

just another ref Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:47am

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Originally Posted by Bishopcolle (Post 706633)
I almost T'd her, but instead yelled a warning that that was her last shot...she heard me, but ignored me....Was I wrong?

Not advisable to yell anything at a coach, ever. If you have something to say to the coach, it can wait until you're close. You can speak quietly. You have the authority. jmo

rockyroad Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:11pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
Hmm, this brings up something a coach said to me the other night in a girls freshman game.

Coach was yelling across the floor at my partner "Foul! Travel! Foul!"

When the ball was dead, I went to the coach and said, "Coach, we're willing answer questions but yelling across the floor at us and demanding calls is not appropriate."

He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

I wish I had been carrying Mark Padgett around in my hip pocket for a clever comeback. Alas, I didn't have one.

This one would not have gotten a T from me, but I most certainly would have followed up as he walked away. A simple comment like "No one's feelings are hurt, Coach. Just trying to make sure everyone here behaves in a professional manner."

If he's too thick to get it at that point, there will probably end up being a T somewhere later in the game.

jeffpea Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
Hmm, this brings up something a coach said to me the other night in a girls freshman game.

Coach was yelling across the floor at my partner "Foul! Travel! Foul!"

When the ball was dead, I went to the coach and said, "Coach, we're willing answer questions but yelling across the floor at us and demanding calls is not appropriate."

He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

I wish I had been carrying Mark Padgett around in my hip pocket for a clever comeback. Alas, I didn't have one.

"coach, there's nothing you could say that would hurt my feelings. however, if you keep acting like a middle school coach you'll get a Technical!"

tomegun Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:19pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

Technical - blankety blank - foul!

AKOFL Fri Dec 10, 2010 01:25pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
Hmm, this brings up something a coach said to me the other night in a girls freshman game.

Coach was yelling across the floor at my partner "Foul! Travel! Foul!"

When the ball was dead, I went to the coach and said, "Coach, we're willing answer questions but yelling across the floor at us and demanding calls is not appropriate."

He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

I wish I had been carrying Mark Padgett around in my hip pocket for a clever comeback. Alas, I didn't have one.

" I hope not coach, because it's my last one.":D

Upward ref Fri Dec 10, 2010 04:37pm

Had to be there
 
We have a well respected BV coach in my district that gets somewhat fired up but never seems disrespectful. His teams always conduct them selves as gentlemen mostly as well. My sons and I were at a game of his last week, first game of the season for a fairly intense rivalry with the usually top ranked team. I noticed after a short conference with the referee the coach seemed to make his point and as the ref walked away ,coach swats him on the butt as a parting gesture! when I told my son to watch the next "short conference ", sure enough he did it again and my son was rolling in the bleachers laughing this time. I was steady thinking what I would do and I still am unsure. :)

Scratch85 Fri Dec 10, 2010 04:41pm

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Originally Posted by Upward ref (Post 706768)
We have a well respected BV coach in my district that gets somewhat fired up but never seems disrespectful. His teams always conduct them selves as gentlemen mostly as well. My sons and I were at a game of his last week, first game of the season for a fairly intense rivalry with the usually top ranked team. I noticed after a short conference with the referee the coach seemed to make his point and as the ref walked away ,coach swats him on the butt as a parting gesture! when I told my son to watch the next "short conference ", sure enough he did it again and my son was rolling in the bleachers laughing this time. I was steady thinking what I would do and I still am unsure. :)

Dont turn your back on him! :D

rsl Fri Dec 10, 2010 04:44pm

I'd never actually say it, but ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 706660)
Hmm, this brings up something a coach said to me the other night in a girls freshman game.

Coach was yelling across the floor at my partner "Foul! Travel! Foul!"

When the ball was dead, I went to the coach and said, "Coach, we're willing answer questions but yelling across the floor at us and demanding calls is not appropriate."

He slapped me on the back and said, "No problem. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." and walked away smirking.

I wish I had been carrying Mark Padgett around in my hip pocket for a clever comeback. Alas, I didn't have one.

How about "My feelings aren't hurt, but with you doing so much reffing I was wondering who was doing your coaching."

DLH17 Fri Dec 10, 2010 05:08pm

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Originally Posted by rsl (Post 706770)
how about "my feelings aren't hurt, but with you doing so much reffing i was wondering who was doing your coaching."

:d

Mark Padgett Fri Dec 10, 2010 05:23pm

"Coach - let's trade places. You come out here and call the game and I'll sit on the bench and act like a jacka$$."

BillyMac Fri Dec 10, 2010 07:36pm

I've Got Pretty Thick Skin ...
 
I'm on the "few and far between technicals" side of the officiating spectrum, but this situation would have led to the quickest, easiest, and most enthusiastic technical foul of my career.

tomegun Fri Dec 10, 2010 08:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 706808)
I'm on the "few and far between technicals" side of the officiating spectrum, but this situation would have led to the quickest, easiest, and most enthusiastic technical foul of my career.

IMO, this kind of thinking has the potential to do the game an injustice. An unsporting act is an unsporting act regardless of how thick your skin may be.

TimTaylor Sat Dec 11, 2010 03:00am

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Originally Posted by Bishopcolle (Post 706663)
..but, he who hesitates is lost....

NO, NO, NO - It's "He who has a Tate's is lost" :D:D:D:D

constable Sat Dec 11, 2010 03:16am

Automatic T.

They won't get much easier.

BillyMac Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:19am

Shades Of Gray ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 706813)
An unsporting act is an unsporting act regardless of how thick your skin may be.

Disagree. There's black, white, and gray.

Black areas may represent a situation where none of us, with the possible exception of the few of us who may be overly officious officials, with unbelievably thin skin, would ever charge a technical foul. First period, first complaint by coach, load enough to be only heard by players, coaches, and officials, "C'mon Billy, he traveled. We need a break".

White areas may represent a situation where almost all of us, with the possible exception of officials who are hearing impaired, will pretty much charge a technical foul every single time, almost automatically. "He traveled. Get your ****ing head in the game".

Gray areas may represent areas where the personality of the coach, the personality of the official, the stage of the game, the type of game, the relationship between the coach and the official, etc. all come into play. Situations that may be gray areas include those in which the coach's complaints are persistent, or those where the coach has interfered with the officials' concentration. One man's technical foul is another man's warning. Another man's warning is, yet, another man's decision to ignore. We're not robots.

SNIPERBBB Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:18am

If they start making personal comments, its time for a correction. A saying that goes around one of the local associations is "If a coach uses the words "You" or " you're"(in this case "They"), and the following words are not to the effect of "the best official ever", then dump 'em"

Again, try to use your best judgement.

justacoach Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:29am

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 706872)
If they start making personal comments, its time for a correction. A saying that goes around one of the local associations is "If a coach uses the words "You" or " you're"(in this case "They"), and the following words are not to the effect of "the best official ever", then dump 'em"

Again, try to use your best judgement.

Welcome to our little community. Hope you find our collective wisdom useful and that you continue to contribute in a positive fashion..

tomegun Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:56pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 706865)
We're not robots.

You are right, but I bet you have let some things slide that should have been called a technical foul.

I actually get an email when someone calls a technical foul in our association. At this early point in the season I'm seeing a trend with one coach and some officials. This isn't the NBA or college - it is scholastic athletics and sportsmanship should be important.

On my way to a game with a coach from out of town known to be a complainer. Let's see how thick/thin my skin is today.:D


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