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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 10:54am
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As far as patches go, they just this year are requiring patches in Texas, and they just this week "sold" us the mandatory patches ($5 each - complete ripoff).
5 BUCKS? Our Assignor sells them for a buck each...sometimes he just gives them to an official.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 10:57am
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5 BUCKS? Our Assignor sells them for a buck each...sometimes he just gives them to an official.
Yep. And they are about 1" x 2" in size. Someone is making some cash.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 12:32pm
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I would never allow someone that was not a certified ref to officiate a real game, if it was a scrimmage ok. In my district in PA (this may not be the same for all in PA) You are not permitted to ref a varsity game with less than 3 officials. You may finish with 2 if one gets hurt. For sub-varsity you MAY NOT start or finish a game with only one ref. For years if a ref didn't show we would do it solo and get double paid. By rule we are not suppose to do this anymore. We must tell them the game is not permitted to be played. I know that some just ref it by themselves but by rule we are not suppose to.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 12:37pm
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I would never allow someone that was not a certified ref to officiate a real game, if it was a scrimmage ok. In my district in PA (this may not be the same for all in PA) You are not permitted to ref a varsity game with less than 3 officials. You may finish with 2 if one gets hurt. For sub-varsity you MAY NOT start or finish a game with only one ref. For years if a ref didn't show we would do it solo and get double paid. By rule we are not suppose to do this anymore. We must tell them the game is not permitted to be played. I know that some just ref it by themselves but by rule we are not suppose to.
So if someone doesn't show up to ref for whatever reason, they cancel the game? Wow...I would assume the penalty for no-showing a game is pretty harsh in your neck of the woods?
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 12:38pm
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And if an official gets injured during a JV game?
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 01:14pm
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Hopefully one of the Varsity officials are there and get dressed fast. I know if it happens most will just do it solo, but by district rule it is not suppose happen.
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Old Sat Dec 11, 2010, 10:48am
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Hopefully one of the Varsity officials are there and get dressed fast.
Same here in my little corner of Connecticut. Varsity officials are required to be at the junior varsity game to observe the subvarsity officials, most of us are there at tipoff. Last season an official became ill in the junior varsity game, in the first period. I got dressed and finished the game for him.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 01:18pm
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So if someone doesn't show up to ref for whatever reason, they cancel the game? Wow...I would assume the penalty for no-showing a game is pretty harsh in your neck of the woods?
In WI, no game at any HS level is started with less than 2 officials. If an official doesn't show up and a licensed one isn't available, the game isn't started. Period.
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Old Sat Dec 11, 2010, 10:41am
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For years if a ref didn't show we would do it solo and get double paid.
By contract, 150% game fee here in the Land of Steady habits. On our local board we only have 300 officials and cover 70 high schools, most with six programs, boys, and girls, varsity, junior varsity, and freshman. We also cover many middle school programs for these school systems. On a busy Friday, when we have a few injured, or sick officials, and several have college games, and others may have blocked out the afternoon, or night, for personal, or business reasons, we may not be able to assign two officials to every single game. Officials, especially subvarsity officials, are assigned doubleheaders, freshman game and the junior varsity game, or middle school game, and junior varsity game, sometimes in different towns.

It's comforting to be on this side of the Law of Supply and Demand.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 11:13am
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5 BUCKS? Our Assignor sells them for a buck each...sometimes he just gives them to an official.
Shhhhhhhhhh......

I just sold chseagle one for $114. Even as we speak, he's having it sewn on his arm. Not his sleeve, his arm.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 11:22am
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Shhhhhhhhhh......

I just sold chseagle one for $114. Even as we speak, he's having it sewn on his arm. Not his sleeve, his arm.
Kinda serves as a place setting too for those long double headers.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 11:25am
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Shhhhhhhhhh......

I just sold chseagle one for $114. Even as we speak, he's having it sewn on his arm. Not his sleeve, his arm.
You're killing me JR...

...actually, I was thinking about having one tattooed on my arm...and then I could go sleeveless.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 06:55pm
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He's having it sewn on his arm. Not his sleeve, his arm.
We've got a guy with an IAABO logo tattooed on his upper arm. Really.

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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 06:57pm
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Here, in the Land of Steady Habits, we are instructed to only work with IAABO officials. We even have some suggested one person mechanics for those rare times when only one official is assigned, or for some reason, only one official shows up.
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