Subsitute Ref When Partner Doesn't Show Up?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Duh. Already did that. Was curious about how other places would handle it.

Duh. What happens in other areas of the country has no bearing on what your state or association requirements are. We don't blow whistles when entering the playing area, for example.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Duh. What happens in other areas of the country has no bearing on what your state or association requirements are. We don't blow whistles when entering the playing area, for example.

Apparently the first thing to go is your reading comprehension skills. I was CURIOUS how people in other parts of the country would handle this. You can feel free to ignore this thread...

[Smitty]

As far as patches go, they just this year are requiring patches in Texas, and they just this week "sold" us the mandatory patches ($5 each - complete ripoff), so not everyone has their patches on their shirts yet. Next year it should be easier to tell who is patched, but for now lots of people, including myself, don't have their patches on yet.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

As far as patches go, they just this year are requiring patches in Texas, and they just this week "sold" us the mandatory patches ($5 each - complete ripoff), so not everyone has their patches on their shirts yet. Next year it should be easier to tell who is patched, but for now lots of people, including myself, don't have their patches on yet.

As RookieDude's apparent sarcasm notes, patches mean nothing. I'll bet I could go online and buy an Illinois patch right now if I wanted one. Here, it's IAABO patches, and they're always worn for varsity games. JV games, we wear them 99.9% of the time. Not sure on MS games.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

As RookieDude's apparent sarcasm notes, patches mean nothing. I'll bet I could go online and buy an Illinois patch right now if I wanted one. Here, it's IAABO patches, and they're always worn for varsity games. JV games, we wear them 99.9% of the time. Not sure on MS games.

I totally missed the sarcasm - I guess my reading comprehension needs some work, too.

But since they charge $5 per patch here, that should eliminate most of the people who want to mimic a high school official for the fun of it.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

As RookieDude's apparent sarcasm notes, patches mean nothing.

Yes...I was being facetious.

In fact, around these parts, many times we will have a crew where some of the officials have patches and others do not. (I use to carry along a patched shirt and a non-patched shirt so we could match...heck, at state tournaments I have brought pleated pants and non-pleated pants so the crew would even have the same pants if possible)

Some are to lazy to put the patch on or are to cheap to buy another shirt...so they use their black and white college shirt with no patch.

On another note...we have the option, in our association, to use gray shirts or black/white. (As long as the whole crew use the same of course)

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

On another note...we have the option, in our association, to use gray shirts or black/white. (As long as the whole crew use the same of course)

We have the same option for sub-varsity, although gray shirts are mandatory for Varsity. Which makes me also remember that patches are also only mandatory for the gray shirts, so sub-varsity games will often have guys in stripes with no patches, so I guess I'll just work with anyone who shows up.

By the way, I was instructed by my association that they would have backed me either way if I chose to work with the coach or not, but they said it would have been perfectly fine to let the coach ref.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Yes...I was being facetious.

In fact, around these parts, many times we will have a crew where some of the officials have patches and others do not. (I use to carry along a patched shirt and a non-patched shirt so we could match...heck, at state tournaments I have brought pleated pants and non-pleated pants so the crew would even have the same pants if possible)

Some are to lazy to put the patch on or are to cheap to buy another shirt...so they use their black and white college shirt with no patch.

On another note...we have the option, in our association, to use gray shirts or black/white. (As long as the whole crew use the same of course)

Geesh, by definition it should be 'uniform'. In Illinois, no patch and you really stand out. In fact I can't remember not seeing an unpatched shirt in a HS game at any level. Sloppy.

[Adam]

Now the worst part is this coach can forever claim he was an official.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Geesh, by definition it should be 'uniform'. In Illinois, no patch and you really stand out. In fact I can't remember not seeing an unpatched shirt in a HS game at any level. Sloppy.

I agree...

but, not all officials have our appreciation for decorum.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Geesh, by definition it should be 'uniform'. In Illinois, no patch and you really stand out. In fact I can't remember not seeing an unpatched shirt in a HS game at any level. Sloppy.

I know you'll be shocked, but I used to work at least 6 games a year in Illinois sans patch. We all came down from WI and none of us wore a patch. Nobody ever said a word about it.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'll bet I could go online and buy an Illinois patch right now if I wanted one.

Don't know about that. If I remember correctly (and I should since I'm a resident), the IHSA stopped making the patches altogether. Some guys now have the logo embroidered on the shirts, either on the sleeve or the left breast area.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Smitty

As far as patches go, they just this year are requiring patches in Texas, and they just this week "sold" us the mandatory patches ($5 each - complete ripoff).

5 BUCKS? Our Assignor sells them for a buck each...sometimes he just gives them to an official.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

5 BUCKS? Our Assignor sells them for a buck each...sometimes he just gives them to an official.

Yep. And they are about 1" x 2" in size. Someone is making some cash.

[PIAA REF]

I would never allow someone that was not a certified ref to officiate a real game, if it was a scrimmage ok. In my district in PA (this may not be the same for all in PA) You are not permitted to ref a varsity game with less than 3 officials. You may finish with 2 if one gets hurt. For sub-varsity you MAY NOT start or finish a game with only one ref. For years if a ref didn't show we would do it solo and get double paid. By rule we are not suppose to do this anymore. We must tell them the game is not permitted to be played. I know that some just ref it by themselves but by rule we are not suppose to.