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Old Thu Dec 09, 2010, 11:14am
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All I can tell you is that in my primary association, I have yet to see 3 on a crew in a GV game. And I have yet to see [with the exception of a small private school with a smaller court] 2 on a crew in a BV game. In my secondary association, there are always 3 assigned to a varsity game.
That's interesting; wonder how long it'll be before someone considers this a Title IX violation.
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That's interesting; wonder how long it'll be before someone considers this a Title IX violation.
I am not going to be 'that guy'.
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Old Thu Dec 09, 2010, 11:21am
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I am not going to be 'that guy'.
Ah, come on. Actually, I would expect it from someone on the fan/parent/coaching side. I could honestly see the lawsuit going either way.
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Ah, come on. Actually, I would expect it from someone on the fan/parent/coaching side. I could honestly see the lawsuit going either way.
When the state was going to cut schedules last year, excepting football, that is precisely what prevented it from implementation. There might be games that DO have 3 [G] and some with 2 [B] that I don't know about since I do not see the master schedule. In my 4 years of varsity ball, I have yet to hear "We should have had 3 on this game" on the girls side. I have heard it plenty on the boys side when a crew of 2 was assigned.
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When the state was going to cut schedules last year, excepting football, that is precisely what prevented it from implementation. There might be games that DO have 3 [G] and some with 2 [B] that I don't know about since I do not see the master schedule. In my 4 years of varsity ball, I have yet to hear "We should have had 3 on this game" on the girls side. I have heard it plenty on the boys side when a crew of 2 was assigned.
Agreed, and if the lawsuit breaks on the side of allowing the difference, I would expect more areas to follow suit. I would at least expect to see more areas introduce 3-whistle for boys while continuing to use 2 for girls. Not sure we'll see many go backwards and move from 3 to 2 for girls, though.
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That's interesting; wonder how long it'll be before someone considers this a Title IX violation.
Could be that each has the same budget and they chose to spend it differently.
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Could be that each has the same budget and they chose to spend it differently.
You probably realize that Title IX is not exclusively about equal budgets.
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Could be that each has the same budget and they chose to spend it differently.
Assuming the boys and girls athletic departments are separate, you could be right. And if they have different ADs making the decisions for each group. I haven't seen that, however, as an actual structure. Typically, one AD runs both boys and girls athletics.
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Assuming the boys and girls athletic departments are separate, you could be right. And if they have different ADs making the decisions for each group. I haven't seen that, however, as an actual structure. Typically, one AD runs both boys and girls athletics.
My point was based on the assumption that the coaches were the ones to make the decision where they wanted to spend thier team's money given the choice between 2 and 3 vs. some other item. If the AD makes that choice not based on the team's wishes, I agree with you. The girls team just may choose to attend an extra training camp that the boys don't.
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My point was based on the assumption that the coaches were the ones to make the decision where they wanted to spend thier team's money given the choice between 2 and 3 vs. some other item. If the AD makes that choice not based on the team's wishes, I agree with you. The girls team just may choose to attend an extra training camp that the boys don't.
This is true, and I suppose it could vary by area. If the coaches are making the decisions, it could fly. If it's the AD's or other school leadership, however....

My hunch is that, given what 26 year gap stated, the fact that it's a universal difference tells me the decision isn't made by the coaches.
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This is true, and I suppose it could vary by area. If the coaches are making the decisions, it could fly. If it's the AD's or other school leadership, however....

My hunch is that, given what 26 year gap stated, the fact that it's a universal difference tells me the decision isn't made by the coaches.
I know that contracts are sent out by the associations to the schools. Not sure if the county ADs hold any sway over the individual schools insofaras number of officials is concerned. And it may vary from county to county.
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Nevada -- Two largest classifications use 3-person on both boys and girls varsity games, two smallest classifications use 2-person.
All sub-varsity games are 2-person.
All postseason contests are 3-person.

Northern CA -- almost exclusively 2-person. More three person games are starting to emerge. The postseason involves 3-person upon reaching a certain point.
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