When is it too late to turnback a game ???????

[grunewar]

This year we were told anything inside 24 hrs (unless under exigent circumstances) you get "fined" your game check.

[BktBallRef]

Since 1988...

I have NEVER turned a game back in.

I have NEVER refused an assignment.

I have NEVER refused a game as a fill-in.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Since 1988...

I have NEVER turned a game back in.

I have NEVER refused an assignment.

I have NEVER refused a game as a fill-in.

I had to do two of those for yesterday when one of my assignors did not realize he had me scheduled for two games at two different levels.

Peace

[refboss]

it is circumstantial and depends upon
your relationship with the assignors
whether you are climbing the ladder (your status)
how many times you've helped the assignors in the past
etc etc etc
if your area has extra officials the turned back game can be filled easily
if you know the assignor will have trouble covering, don't accept

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Since 1988...

Since 2001, when I started college varsity. . .

I have NEVER turned a game back in.

I've probably turned back an average of 1 game per season.

I have NEVER refused an assignment.

I refused 6 just this year. I sent my D3 assignor my D2 dates and he gave me games on them anyway. I always refuse HS or D3 scrimmages if they're more than a half-hour away.

I have NEVER refused a game as a fill-in.

I think I'm actually with you on this one.

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by grunewar

This year we were told anything inside 24 hrs (unless under exigent circumstances) you get "fined" your game check.

Is that in your boards by - laws or is that what the assigner says he is going to do ???

BTW - are you in Cardinal ???

[Multiple Sports]

Hey guys, I appreciate how everyone responded. I think part of the equation / solution is what kind of mentality does the assigner have.

Some assigners assign based on availability ( most hs assigners) and some
assigners assign on ability.

I think 48 hrs is reasonable, unless it is the DeMatha / Gonzaga game in DC or
the Christ The King / St. Raymond's game in NYC.

I know guys that wouldn't work a DII or DIII game if they were assigned a high profile hs game.


Sorry to you guys out in the midwest, the games I referenced are some big time catholic school games on the east coast.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

I think 48 hrs is reasonable, unless it is the DeMatha / Gonzaga game in DC...

I have actually been in this situation. I had a falling out with the assigner of the Washington DC Catholic league when I called to turn back a game. I did this nearly a month before the game and it was for a college game! The game I turned back was for another one of his leagues, not the Catholic league. I stood my ground and told him what he was doing wasn't right with the early notice I gave him - he took all my high school games. He called me the next day and gave me more/better games than he originally gave me. I ended up doing a lot of those Catholic league games and we got along great after that.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Is that in your boards by - laws or is that what the assigner says he is going to do ???

BTW - are you in Cardinal ???

1. Says they're going to do.

2. No.

PM me if you want

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

This year we were told anything inside 24 hrs (unless under exigent circumstances) you get "fined" your game check.

Here, you can get fined for any turnback after the game has been accepted in arbiter.

The assigner in my last association didn't use arbiter, schedules came out in paper packets, and he gave a deadline of about a week after the schedule was released. Any turnback after that would mean a fine.

Further games are not assigned to an official until the fine is paid. Whether it's in the bi-laws or not, I don't know. It's not an area I care to use for wave-making, to be honest.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Here, you can get fined for any turnback after the game has been accepted in arbiter.

Our Arbiter is set that you "automatically accept the game" when you open Arbiter (I think), I know it's automatic. Then you have to call or email the Assignor to turn it back.

Not a fan of that feature.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Our Arbiter is set that you "automatically accept the game" when you open Arbiter (I think), I know it's automatic. Then you have to call or email the Assignor to turn it back.

Not a fan of that feature.

Ouch. We get an email with a deadline to accept/reject.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

We get an email with a deadline to accept/reject.

Same here.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Ouch. We get an email with a deadline to accept/reject.

Same here. If you reject the game, it automatically marks the day as blocked. I don't remember for sure, but I think you might not be able to clear the block it sets.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Same here. If you reject the game, it automatically marks the day as blocked. I don't remember for sure, but I think you might not be able to clear the block it sets.

Yep -- and I'm not a fan of that feature, either.