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While his mechanics and knowledge are good, he just can't make it up and down the court anymore. Someone is gonna have to break the news to him, soon.......
Thanks for reminding me. I need to purchase another bottle of aspirin. Hopefully I'll find a "Buy one, get one free" sale at CVS.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 07:36am
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And with that it's sad to think that a great drinking game has come to an end too.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 09:12am
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J.D had a knee replacement this past spring and he retired. He talked about it at a camp I was at. Very sad story if you value officiating.

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That sucks. JD was one my favorites to watch.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:21pm
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Or anytime a call is "sold".
How about when he bends over and puts his hands on his knees to get a "better look" in the lead position? Or anytime he leans?
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:34pm
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How about when he bends over and puts his hands on his knees to get a "better look" in the lead position? Or anytime he leans?
This gets my vote.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:42pm
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This gets my vote.
With Welmer being so tall. What does everyone think about height in officiating?
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:52pm
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With Welmer being so tall. What does everyone think about height in officiating?
Not really relevant imo. Getting into and staying in position as well as getting the right angles to see what's going on has nothing really to do with height. Combine that with presence, rules knowledge and good judgment and game management and you're gonna get a well officiated game imo, no matter how tall or short the official may be.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:53pm
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With Welmer being so tall. What does everyone think about height in officiating?
I suppose it can help with "presence," but I've known some shorter officials who have great presence on the court. And I've known some taller officials who have almost zero "presence."
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:54pm
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We could easily invent one.

First thought: Every time he birddogs, drink.
At least with Welmer you had a slim chance of seeing the end of the game, not with this one.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 05:56pm
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Not really relevant imo. Getting into and staying in position as well as getting the right angles to see what's going on has nothing really to do with height. Combine that with presence, rules knowledge and good judgment and game management and you're gonna get a well officiated game imo, no matter how tall or short the official may be.
I agree. I haven't been in officiating long, but have heard a lot about being over 6' with regards to court presence and picking up the pivot foot and being aware of whats going on closer to the floor in regards to pivoting and having eyes higher up
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 06:07pm
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I agree. I haven't been in officiating long, but have heard a lot about being over 6' with regards to court presence and picking up the pivot foot and being aware of whats going on closer to the floor in regards to pivoting and having eyes higher up
Backing up a step or two usually takes care of "eyes higher up" when you want or need to get your eyes higher up. And needing to get your eyes higher up is only applicable to some situations anyway at L, C or T. Sometimes it's your job to get the contact or foot movements below.

I've found that the need for an official to get their eyes higher up is usually a case of that official being too close to the play.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 06:09pm
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Backing up a step or two usually takes care of "eyes higher up" when you want or need to get your eyes higher up. And needing to get your eyes higher up is only applicable to some situations anyway at L, C or T. Sometimes it's your job to get the contact or foot movements below.

I've found that the need for an official to get their eyes higher up is usually a case of that official being too close to the play.
I agree with that also, I find myself too close sometimes and having to back out. It just seems difficult for me to referee down low sometimes.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 06:20pm
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It just seems difficult for me to referee down low sometimes.
Keep backing.

And move around to get a good angle if you can on the separation between a shooter and a defender, or on opponents rebounding. Sometimes though you just can't get a good look and you have to depend on help from your partner(s).
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 06:29pm
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Keep backing.

And move around to get a good angle if you can on the separation between a shooter and a defender, or on opponents rebounding. Sometimes though you just can't get a good look and you have to depend on help from your partner(s).
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