Game(s) rescheduled due to weather
 

What normally happens when a game you're assigned to get rescheduled due to weather?

What happens if the game that gets rescheduled to a day where you are assigned another game is playing at the same time?

Since I have multiple personalities, I work both games at the same time.

I can only speak for my area, but we don't necessarily "own" our games. If the game is rescheduled, the assignor may check and see if we're free. It might be the case that when the game is rescheduled, we're already working that night and can't take it.

I feel sorry for those where your bad/evil personality is officiating LMAO

The timer and the bookkeeper usually play one on one.

If necessary, they come to the game by dogsled.

That's how it is here. I'm pretty sure it works differently with individually contracted officials (Rich would know), though.

Same here in Central Iowa. If we're free on the rescheduled night we get it.

LMAO, How'd you know that's how they conduct the census in remote parts of Alaska?

+1

I lost 18 games last yr due to snow.

Assignors were going crazy to get all the games in. With that many schedule adjustments we all just got what we could.......

High school: We get the game back. If already assigned a game on the reschedule date we get to choose the one we want to work.

College: Supervisor says we don't own the game but try to give us the game back.

We get first crack at the reschedule. The commissioners (assignors) do the original assigning for conference games, but typically the home AD is responsible for any game that gets rescheduled. It's not unusual that the call we get letting us know the game is postponed also lets us know the makeup date so we can either take it right away or let the AD know we're busy.

Many makeups here are done on "off" nights where there are fewer games, such as Mondays or Thursdays. The schools are usually playing already on the busy nights, although there are exceptions and some schools will reschedule without even considering that it will be tough to find officials to work their games. If a school reschedules my game on a Friday, for example, I don't even need to look at my calendar -- I'm already working. Any contracted game (to me) takes precedence, but I only schedule varsity games. Officials that take both varsity and sub-varsity will frequently take the varsity and then find a sub for the sub-varsity. Schools understand this and are OK with it as long as you find a warm body for the freshman/JV game you are giving back.

Unlike association areas, the AD is on the hook and cannot call an assignor who will step up and help. Our associations maintain lists of officials who (self) claim availability, but that's about it. Frequently those lists are dated, although I try to keep mine up as best as I can.

Snow Days ...
 

Same here in my little corner of Connecticut. The Arbiter takes care of it. Also, it's frowned upon to do more than one varsity game (late afternoon, night) in one day, although on the "reschedule day" it's been known to happen when the schedule is overbooked. We have 70 schools, almost 140 varsity programs, and only 130 varsity officials. Throw in a few injuries, an illness or two, and some blocked out days, or schools, and we have problems on these "reschedule days".

I'd work 2 games every Saturday if I could find enough afternoon games.

"Frowned upon"? See, that's what I don't get. If officials are independent contractors, how can they be restricted from working more than one game? It's what I never understood about systems where there's only one assignor (who's blessed by the state) and it's "his way or the highway" -- isn't that restricting the trade of an independent contractor?

I worked in such a system in the 90s. You'd go to an association meeting and they'd tell you that as a varsity official, you weren't allowed to work anything but varsity games and then they'd hand you a schedule with only 1-2 dates per week. I much prefer my current system -- if I want to work 2 dates a week, it's up to me. If I want to work 6 dates a week, I can.

And Skippy Weasel Pants can work the third game that was scheduled that night. :D

MTD, Sr.

After All, We Are The Consitution State ...
 

Sorry, wrong choice of words. It's in our local board's constitution, a constitution that is voted on by our membership whenever someone suggests a change, which is often. So far, nobody has ever suggested a change in this part of our constitution, although we have allowed our assigner to rarely double up with an official when absolutely needed, as described above. We believe that it's important to put an official with "fresh legs" in a varsity game whenever possible. This rule doesn't involve subvarsity games, where double assignments are fairly common.

So THAT'S how Diebler does it!

Workng Up The Ladder ...
 

True. On our local board, sometimes it's better to be a top rated "split" official, working both varsity and subvarsity, games, than it is being a low rated "full" varsity official. Often the split official gets a much busier schedule, although with fewer varsity assignments.

I have had one postponement due to weather in FL. In VT, we would get the assignment if we didn't already have a game that night. But, just as often, we would get another game because someone else was double booked. Often Saturday was a makeup day, and in February, it was not uncommon to have a guy work an afternoon game and an evening game due to unavailability of officials.

We will work a couple games a day sometimes in FL. Usually for tournaments. And they are always 3 crew games. When we do DHs, it is usually JVB/VB with 3 on the second game. And on girls' DHs, we often have just 2 on the varsity game.

I find this reasoning laughable. When I wear a pedometer working as a member of a 3 person crew, I have never had a game that has reached 8/10s of a mile. Any referee who is not "fresh" after a single 3 p.c. game needs to put in some time getting into better physical condition. :rolleyes:

That would be every game.

There is no reason each individual game contract couldn't include restrictions on certain activities for a certain number of hours before the actual game. As it is, they probably include arrival times that are well before the actual game time.
I'd bet that it is rarely the case that their is only one assignor for EVERYTHING in one area. There may be one for HS ball as it is here, but if someone doesn't like it, they can work non-HS ball (there are plenty of different assignors for that) or, for HS ball, can drive to the next town...a few people do that.

You need a new pedometer or you need to work a game with a team that is running an offense more than the 4-corners.

Plus, pedometers are horrible for measuring referee distances. The stride length is so irregular, it can't be accurate. Pedometers are far better for runners/walkers where the stride length is generally consistent.

OK, assume my pedometer is off. What distance do you stipulate is the average when working 3 p.c.? Is your given average distance an amount of physical work that would leave any "reasonably" fit referee unable to work a second game?

That has been the standard, even if the game is not from an "assignor" in this state.

Peace

Contracts here specify start times. It's practice to show up an hour early, but nothing in writing to force that to happen. That said, I'm usually at least 75 minutes early.

And in my second game, I actually was loose having just worked another game. My old (cough, cough) legs take a little breaking in. :D

20th Century Mechanics ...
 

This is Connecticut, the "Land of Steady Habits", and the "Land of the Two Person Game". Almost all of our assignments are two person. Some exceptions are some charity holiday tournament games, a few games involving some big city rivalries, and some state tournament games, from the quarterfinals up.

Three Miles Per Game (Mileage May Vary) ...
 

I did the pedometer thing a few times last year. Two person games. Boys varsity games. Averaged about three miles per game.

Just found out that the Jamboree where I was working crowd control is now cancelled due to our crazy winter weather up here.

The first actual game for both the boys & girls (December 4th) got rescheduled due to the football team playing in the 1A WIAA/Dairy Farmers of Washington Gridiron Classic championship game. So the 1st game for all squads is going to be on December 7tth.

Thankfully looking at how the rescheduling was done, there's a possibility that the officials assigned to the game will still get a chance to work.

You can get an alternate workout by going to the mall and performing crowd control on the obstreperous kiddies waiting in line for Santa pictures. Probably pays better as well.
Don't forget your taser!!!

Padgett, a request for you.
 

Mark:

Billy Mac talked about having fresh legs for a varsity game.

Please show the Forum the special sock and shoes that you wear to keep your legs fresh, nudge, nudge, ;), ;).

MTD, Sr.

Agitator Alert!
 

C'mon Sr.....like Mark needs your help! :p

It's an hour drive to get to the nearest mall. Only 15 minutes to get the BB games.

Also currently the mall has no security openings.

Don't give up hope, most Santa concessions are independent contractors. Talk to the big guy himself

We get first shot at rescheduled games usually but it is up to the assignor. Also, wow at only working one game. All my assignments are doubleheaders. GV/BV.

When I saw the title to this thread I figured Cheese Eagle was a weatherman now too. Crowd Control/Scorekeeper/Timer/Referee Supervisor/Game Meteorologist/ Taser Certified.

Forgot one.

I am a baaaaaadddd boy, :D!

MTD, Sr.

LMAO I'll only play Santa to 3 people...my family.

Maybe if my wife's (my hot mama) good she'll get an extra special stocking on Christmas Eve LMAO ;)

With the way my knee is right now, it would not be in best interest to play Kris Kringle.

I'd only be what's colorized if I lived in Wisconsin, but since I live in Washington I guess that thinking is SOL IMHO.