The Most Misunderstood Basketball Rules

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Schmucked.

What is the meaning of this word "schmucked" that both you, and Woody, from the NFHS Basketball Forum, have been using today? Is this some type of colloquial thing? Are you two from the same neighborhood in hell.

[golfdesigner]

Special Thanks to BillyMac for posting this listing. I plan to pass it on to some new officials that will be working youth recreation bkball, and maybe even to the coaches in the league, may be of some help to the coaches.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by golfdesigner

Special Thanks to BillyMac for posting this listing. I plan to pass it on to some new officials that will be working youth recreation bkball, and maybe even to the coaches in the league, may be of some help to the coaches.

You may want to delete the words, "gains an advantage" from the rule regarding palming or carrying? I'm not, but I'm sure that many others will.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

You may want to delete the words, "gains an advantage" from the rule regarding palming or carrying? I'm not, but I'm sure that many others will.

It depends; are you describing the rule, or the way it's enforced in your area of "Connecticut."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The NCHSAA took it a step further. As long as every player who is wearing such is wearing the same color, we don't give a tinker's damn what color it is.

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

And that's how it should be.

The local high school in my town uses the school colors blue and white. Over many years the color red has somehow crept into the uniforms, usually on the piping, or numbers. Several years ago we got a new football coach. He decided to get red helmets. After the first game of the season, all the old timers in town, in the bars, and in the coffee shops, complained, and complained, and complained, about the nontraditional red helmets.

I don't work games for my local high school. I'm a retired teacher, and coach, from the school system, and I don't want there to be a perception of a conflict of interest. Plus there are sixty-nine other schools where I can peddle my wares. For sake of argument, let's say that I did work one of their games, and the players all had red headbands. The rule states that headbands and wristbands must be white, black, beige or a single solid school color. Red is not an officially recognized school color.

Now that I'm up here on my soapbox, let's say that players want to wear black wristbands and headbands to honor the recent death of a player, coach, teacher, etc. Or, to raise cancer awareness, they all want to wear pink headbands, the same week that we all use pink whistles.

I love BktBallRef's post. Why did the guys at the NFHS have to put in the word "school"?

Now could someone please help me down from this soapbox? It didn't seem this high on the way up, and the height kind of scares me.

Note to BktBallRef: Is "tinker's damn" actuaully written into the NCHSAA language?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It depends; are you describing the rule, or the way it's enforced in your area of "Connecticut."

Really, really, good point. You've convinced me. Five years ago the list was originally written only for my local area. If you do an internet search you'll find that the list has expanded to all over the country, and can be found on many local association websites. In my wildest dreams I never thought that it would reach out as far as it has.

I make a motion that "gains an advantage" be officially deleted from the carrying and palming section of the most misunderstood basketball rules list.

Is there a second?

[golfdesigner]

If we leave gain an advantage in, and it gets in the hands or mouths of coaches, we could be in trouble.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by golfdesigner

If we leave gain an advantage in, and it gets in the hands or mouths of coaches, we could be in trouble.

Quit using common sense. You'll just screw Billy up.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by golfdesigner

I'll Second That.

golfdesigner has seconded the motion. As the self appointed secretary of the misunderstood basketball rules list, I will now cast one unanimous ballot accepting the motion.

It's official: Palming or carrying is when the ball comes to rest in the player's hand, and the player either travels with the ball, or dribbles a second time. There is no restriction as to how high a player may bounce the ball, provided the ball does not come to rest in a player’s hand.

Don't you just love Bobby's Rules of Order?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The local high school in my town uses the school colors blue and white. Over many years the color red has somehow crept into the uniforms, usually on the piping, or numbers. Several years ago we got a new football coach. He decided to get red helmets. After the first game of the season, all the old timers in town, in the bars, and in the coffee shops, complained, and complained, and complained, about the nontraditional red helmets.

I don't work games for my local high school. I'm a retired teacher, and coach, from the school system, and I don't want there to be a perception of a conflict of interest. Plus there are sixty-nine other schools where I can peddle my wares. For sake of argument, let's say that I did work one of their games, and the players all had red headbands. The rule states that headbands and wristbands must be white, black, beige or a single solid school color. Red is not an officially recognized school color.

Now that I'm up here on my soapbox, let's say that players want to wear black wristbands and headbands to honor the recent death of a player, coach, teacher, etc. Or, to raise cancer awareness, they all want to wear pink headbands, the same week that we all use pink whistles.

I love BktBallRef's post. Why did the guys at the NFHS have to put in the word "school"?

Now could someone please help me down from this soapbox? It didn't seem this high on the way up, and the height kind of scares me.

Note to BktBallRef: Is "tinker's damn" actuaully written into the NCHSAA language?

1) I'd allow the red.

2) The phrase in "tinker's dam."

3) An exception is usually allowed for pink during designated weeks.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The team of Roger Staubach, Tom Landry, and Calvin Hill? How can anybody not be a fan?

Well... the fact that I live in New England, and not Texas, plays a big role for me.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I'd allow the red. An exception is usually allowed for pink during designated weeks.

I would also, as well as the black. It's not my job to research the history of the school to find their traditional school colors. If I'm wrong, well, then, I'm willing to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

The fact that I live in New England, and not Texas, plays a big role for me.

Calvin G. Hill: B.A. History, 1969, Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut, New England.

I used to go watch him play when I was in high school. We lived close enough to Yale Bowl that my friends and I could walk to, and from, the game from home, avoiding all the traffic. My mother was a Yale employee and got us discounted "cheap seats" behind the goal posts for only a few bucks. Great way to spend a Saturday afternoon.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Calvin G. Hill: B.A. History, 1969, Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut, New England.

I used to go watch him play when I was in high school. We lived close enough to Yale Bowl that my friends and I could walk to, and from, the game from home, avoiding all the traffic. My mother was a Yale employee and got us discounted "cheap seats" behind the goal posts for only a few bucks. Great way to spend a Saturday afternoon.

Live in the past much?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Live in the past much?

Yes indeed. I love to reminisce about my youth. It was a much simpler time. Oh the wonderful memories: The Six Days War; Berlin Wall; Watergate; Bay of Pigs; Cuban missile crisis; JFK, Malcolm X, Robert F. Kennedy, and MLK Jr. assassinated; Vietnam War; Racial bigotry; Fallout shelters.