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justacoach Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:49pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 701724)
Then most don't know the rule.

That ignominious majority included a state rules interpreter who has since been persuaded otherwise.;):eek:

Jurassic Referee Thu Nov 18, 2010 01:30pm

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Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 701749)
That ignominious majority included a state rules interpreter who has since been persuaded otherwise.;):eek:

Well, on the bright side, even though they're completely wrong nobody is ever gonna tell 'em that they'll never advance beyond being a "rule book ref". :D

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...rit-rules.html

I remember your crusade. Glad you were able to talk some sense into him. That benefits everybody in your state imho.

justacoach Tue Nov 30, 2010 09:47pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 701757)
Well, on the bright side, even though they're completely wrong nobody is ever gonna tell 'em that they'll never advance beyond being a "rule book ref". :D

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...rit-rules.html

I remember your crusade. Glad you were able to talk some sense into him. That benefits everybody in your state imho.

JR, could you shoot me an email to hots (at) usa dotcom?

johnyd Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:15pm

What if the ball never crosses mid court?
 
THe ball is in the back court, and then passed to a player A2 who is in the air jumping from front to back court. But he cathes the ball in the backcourt so that the ball never crosses half court.
Would 2 feet and the ball apply in this case?

APG Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:28pm

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Originally Posted by johnyd (Post 704094)
THe ball is in the back court, and then passed to a player A2 who is in the air jumping from front to back court. But he cathes the ball in the backcourt so that the ball never crosses half court.
Would 2 feet and the ball apply in this case?

The three points principle only applies to a dribbler so no go.

If in your play you meant a player jumped from his frontcourt, landed in the backcourt, then caught the ball, then that's nothing.

justacoach Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:20pm

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Originally Posted by johnyd (Post 704094)
THe ball is in the back court, and then passed to a player A2 who is in the air jumping from front to back court. But he cathes the ball in the backcourt so that the ball never crosses half court.
Would 2 feet and the ball apply in this case?

Don't overcomplicate this call. The position of the ball is determined, ruleswise. by where it last touched a player or the floor. Regardless of the ball's location during flight, in this case the ball retains backcourt status. Since the player jumped from FC, he has FC status. When he caught the ball he imparted FC status and team control to the ball and became the last to touch the ball when it had FC status. When he landed in BC, the ball attained BC status and he was first to touch.
Net result:BACKCOURT violation. The rules are not concerned with the physical location of a ball in flight.

This little ditty applies to the ball and players as well:
"You are where you were til you get where you're going", sung to the tune of Inna-gadda-da-vida
HTH

Adam Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:44pm

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Originally Posted by johnyd (Post 704094)
THe ball is in the back court, and then passed to a player A2 who is in the air jumping from front to back court. But he cathes the ball in the backcourt so that the ball never crosses half court.
Would 2 feet and the ball apply in this case?

justacoach lays it out pretty well, but this seems to be a common error. The only time the location of the ball with regard to any plane matters is on a throw in.

BktBallRef Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:44pm

Just to clarify, the three points deal only applies to the dribbler who is going from BC to FC.

Jurassic Referee Wed Dec 01, 2010 08:12am

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Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 704087)
JR, could you shoot me an email to ...

Check your PM, Justa.

Suggest you delete your e-mail addy in previous post also. It's never a good idea imo to publically display it.

BillyMac Wed Dec 01, 2010 09:55pm

He's Got A Lot Of Extra Cash Lying Around ...
 
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 704177)
Suggest you delete your e-mail addy in previous post also. It's never a good idea to publicly display it.

Too late. I already gave the email address to my uncle in Nigeria. He's the crown prince. He'll be contacting justacoach shortly. I stand behind him 100%. That's because I want to be able to watch his every move.

justacoach Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:29pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 704177)
Check your PM, Justa.

Suggest you delete your e-mail addy in previous post also. It's never a good idea imo to publically display it.

Thanks for the reply and the advice. Not to worry, I am a card-carrying computer geek and would never expose a meaningful email addy on a public forum, especially considering the denizens of this institution...

justacoach Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:34pm

Late Night w/ Prince Mfume Ngabdo
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 704479)
Too late. I already gave the email address to my uncle in Nigeria. He's the crown prince. He'll be contacting justacoach shortly. I stand behind him 100%. That's because I want to be able to watch his every move.

Billy, expect a 3AM cell call from country code 225!!


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