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Old Mon Nov 15, 2010, 08:50pm
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And do you consider "incidental" and "accidental" touching of the ball to have different implications as regards the delay rule?
To me: incidental = no advantage

So while the implications are very close, they aren't identical. If there are repeated accidental hits that have an effect, I'll have a word with the offender about avoiding the ball.
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 11:13am
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Thanks everyone. Wish I had someone to see it so they could tell me if my judgment was correct but I think it was...of course.
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 11:44am
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No delay, but you have to like a coach that is going to complain to you about that delay in a 3 hour scrimmage that you're working 2 man. Might be a good time to practice resumption of play procedures after a T?
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 11:57am
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How much would you say that intent comes into play for each of the four D.O.G. warnings?
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 12:04pm
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How much would you say that intent comes into play for each of the four D.O.G. warnings?
Good question.
1. Players don't huddle accidentally.
2. Water doesn't get spilled deliberately.
3. Defenders rarely cross the plane deliberately.
4. Hitting the ball may be the only one where it matters.
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 02:39pm
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4. Hitting the ball may be the only one where it matters.
Why?

Don't we still have to call it even if we didn't think the defender meant it?
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 02:43pm
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Why?

Don't we still have to call it even if we didn't think the defender meant it?
I've just never seen it called when contact was inadvertent. Not that it happens that way often; it's hard to not see it coming.
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 02:50pm
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Why?

Don't we still have to call it even if we didn't think the defender meant it?
I'm not.

The word interfere implies (to me, in this instance) some intentional act (including potentially some willful inaction).
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 02:34pm
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How much would you say that intent comes into play for each of the four D.O.G. warnings?
Intent doesn't come into play in any way for any of the DOG warnings. You penalize the act when it occurs and you recognize it.
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Old Tue Nov 16, 2010, 02:37pm
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Intent doesn't come into play in any way for any of the DOG warnings. You penalize the act when it occurs and you recognize it.
So the ball comes out of the net and hits an unsuspecting player from the scoring team in the leg, you're going to issue a DOG?
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