Delay of Game Situation

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I think he means incidental. The player purposely contacted the ball, but his (judged) intent was to protect himself. So...not accidental, but incidental.

Just to add to what Camron wrote, I consider "reflexive" to be, for purposes of this rule, to be accidental.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Just to add to what Camron wrote, I consider "reflexive" to be, for purposes of this rule, to be accidental.

And do you consider "incidental" and "accidental" touching of the ball to have different implications as regards the delay rule?

[Jurassic Referee]

It's a straight judgment call, Welpe, as to whether the shooter interfered with the ball to gain an advantage. Don't second-guess your judgment on the play. And the coach does deserve an explanation. What he doesn't deserve though is an explanation that he has to like or agree with.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

And do you consider "incidental" and "accidental" touching of the ball to have different implications as regards the delay rule?

To me: incidental = no advantage

So while the implications are very close, they aren't identical. If there are repeated accidental hits that have an effect, I'll have a word with the offender about avoiding the ball.

[Welpe]

Thanks everyone. Wish I had someone to see it so they could tell me if my judgment was correct but I think it was...of course.

[doubleringer]

No delay, but you have to like a coach that is going to complain to you about that delay in a 3 hour scrimmage that you're working 2 man. Might be a good time to practice resumption of play procedures after a T?

[bainsey]

How much would you say that intent comes into play for each of the four D.O.G. warnings?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

How much would you say that intent comes into play for each of the four D.O.G. warnings?

Good question.
1. Players don't huddle accidentally.
2. Water doesn't get spilled deliberately.
3. Defenders rarely cross the plane deliberately.
4. Hitting the ball may be the only one where it matters.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

How much would you say that intent comes into play for each of the four D.O.G. warnings?

Intent doesn't come into play in any way for any of the DOG warnings. You penalize the act when it occurs and you recognize it.