Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 701555)

That implies there's a correct side, one which is easier and leads to a better day-long mood. Hmmm.

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 701556)

Well, somebody got out of bed on the logic-chopping side, I see. :p

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 701149)

I had a situation come up during a varsity scrimmage that I'd like to run by the collective wisdom of the forum.

Two fast breaking teams with about two minutes left in the period, score is not all that close. A15 goes up for a successful lay up and on the way down, puts up his hand which the ball deflects off of and squirts away down the end line a few feet.

In my judgment, A15 did this as a reaction to keep the ball from hitting him in the face and did not intentionally interfere with the ball. Based upon the reaction of the defense, I don't think it interefered with a fast break opportunity either.

The head coach for the defense was incensed and did not care for my explanation after the the period had ended. He wanted to the delay of game called and said it did not matter if the player was protecting himself or not.

What do you all think? Does he have a valid argument? Do you make any allowance for a player protecting himself in a situation like that?

Incidentally, a three hour scrimmage with three teams and only two officials is not a lot of fun but we got a lot of reps in. :eek:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 701559)

Play nice, boys.

Hey Snaq, when you say that item four is "the only one where it matters," does "it" = intent? If so, wouldn't item one require intent, too?

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 701555)

That implies there's a correct side, one which is easier and leads to a better day-long mood. Hmmm.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 701566)

The correct side is the one that isn't against a bedroom wall.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 701568)

The correct side is the side that has been assigned to me by the boss.

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 701570)

LOL

Anyway, looking at the four again...

1. Players don't huddle accidentally. = intent
2. Water doesn't get spilled deliberately. = usually no intent, though this rule came from an intentional, sneaky nature
3. Defenders rarely cross the plane deliberately. = no intent/usually reckless
4. Hitting the ball may be the only one where it matters. = intent

I generally agree with the breakdown, but it can't be the "only one that matters" if there's intent involved in the huddle too, right?

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 701570)

LOL

Anyway, looking at the four again...

1. Players don't huddle accidentally. = intent
2. Water doesn't get spilled deliberately. = usually no intent, though this rule came from an intentional, sneaky nature
3. Defenders rarely cross the plane deliberately. = no intent/usually reckless
4. Hitting the ball may be the only one where it matters. = intent

I generally agree with the breakdown, but it can't be the "only one that matters" if there's intent involved in the huddle too, right?

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 701568)

The correct side is the side that has been assigned to me by the boss.

Originally Posted by jurassic referee (Post 701584)

the boss has both sides here. I've been banished from the queendom because of my sleeping habits.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 701584)

The boss has both sides here. I've been banished from the Queendom because of my sleeping habits.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 701572)

It doesn't "matter" if it's never absent. The only one of the four where intent is both required and potentially absent is #4.