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Mark Padgett Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 691035)
Then in another clip the official calls a double dribble and stops what he is doing to explain it to him. What???? I am not doing that either. Not on minor violations like that I am not.

Peace

Then how do you expect to be a role model? ;)

justacoach Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:39am

Bleccch!
 
I suffered thru all the instructional videos and nearly lost my lunch where a partner came to offer help on the OOB. Original call, BLUE!. Partner inserts himself and says, "Tipped off white, tipped off white"
partner says "White"

WTF?

All_Heart Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:04pm

Video "setup"?
 
It looks like to me that the video is scripted and that the players are not actually playing a game. They are setting up plays for the officials to call for the video.
On the 1st play where the official calls a block, he has no partner in trail. So he is either reffing solo or these are set up scripted plays. The contact on the play was extremely marginal and the offensive player looks like she misses on purpose.
#Edit# Okay never mind I just saw the video for "Working by yourself" and the above clip came from it. So he WAS working by himself and that contact WAS marginal :) #Edit#


Most of these "training" videos are :eek:! The production and quality are good but the content is wrong in a number of ways. :(

JRutledge Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:34pm

I think a group of people got together to do a video and probably did not have someone review the material from an educated point of view. So just like regular movies you have inconsistencies in actual real interactions. Nice try but as you can tell many of us found things we would never do or say. Like stop play just to warn a player for 3 second. I do not call that violation let alone stop play to warn someone. After all that is a real game interruptor. :)

Peace

Mark Padgett Fri Sep 03, 2010 01:18pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 691070)
After all that is a real game interruptor. :)

And if you did that, you'd be suffering from gamus interruptus! :eek:

tomegun Fri Sep 03, 2010 03:32pm

Those videos are horrible.

dsqrddgd909 Fri Sep 03, 2010 04:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 691014)
No. We all know what the #1 rule for officials is. :cool:

What is it? I'm almost a newbie.

JRutledge Fri Sep 03, 2010 04:21pm

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Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 691087)
What is it? I'm almost a newbie.

Unless you are really "short" you do not have to worry about it. :D

Peace

Mark Padgett Fri Sep 03, 2010 04:24pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 691088)
Unless you are really "short" you do not have to worry about it. :D

Peace

Or a girl. :eek:

grunewar Fri Sep 03, 2010 05:04pm

Use the Forum "Search" Feature
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 691087)
What is it? I'm almost a newbie.

Don't make him write it.....ppppllease (said it my best Roger Rabbit voice).;)

BillyMac Fri Sep 03, 2010 05:36pm

Maybe If We Ignore Mark Padgett He'll Go Away ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 691014)
We all know what the #1 rule for officials is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 691016)
You are 100% correct. We all know. All of us. Every single one of us. So I'm 100% certain that it's not necessary for you to remind us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 691087)
What is it? I'm almost a newbie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 691088)
Unless you are really "short" you do not have to worry about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 691093)
Don't make him write it.

dsqrddgd909: For the sake of all that's good, and pure, and kind, and innocent in the world, please don't ask again. Please.

BillyMac Fri Sep 03, 2010 05:55pm

Signals Videos ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 691014)
Nice try but as you can tell many of us found things we would never do or say.

I checked out the website and found a section on signals. The official in the video does at least two things that I found odd.

For a held ball he first stops the clock with an open hand and then follows with the held ball "thumbs up" signal. Here in our little corner of Connecticut we just give the "thumbs up" signal.

To call a technical foul he first stops the clock with an open hand, and then follows with the "T" signal. Here we stop the clock with the closed fist foul signal and then follow with the "T" signal.

Comments from other parts of the country?

Jurassic Referee Fri Sep 03, 2010 06:13pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 691096)
I checked out the website and found a section on signals. The official in the video does at least two things that I found odd.

For a held ball he first stops the clock with an open hand and then follows with the held ball "thumbs up" signal. Here in our little corner of Connecticut we just give the "thumbs up" signal.

To call a technical foul he first stops the clock with an open hand, and then follows with the "T" signal. Here we stop the clock with the closed fist foul signal and then follow with the "T" signal.

Comments from other parts of the country?

The official is odd because he's not using NFHS approved and accepted signalling.

The "thumbs up" signal ...#3 of approved NFHS signals in the rule book...is captioned "stop clock for jump/held ball". He's telling you to signal to stop the clock twice iow.

All foul signals should be preceded by signal #5- "stop clock for fouls".

Not the best site for accuracy, fer sure.

BillyMac Fri Sep 03, 2010 06:21pm

Zip Code ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 691096)
Comments from other parts of the country?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 691098)
The official is odd because he's not using NFHS approved and accepted signaling.

Thanks.

Didn't realize that Hell was part of the National Federation.

Mark Padgett Fri Sep 03, 2010 08:00pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 691099)
Thanks.

Didn't realize that Hell was part of the National Federation.

It's what the "H" in what "NFHS" stands for. :p


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