Officials are role models?
 

I never knew I was one. I guess I was wrong, at least according to these guys.

Why Officials Are Role Models | iHoops

Good article. It raises a good number of points and topics for discussion.

I didn't see "Take your meds" under the "Referee's Checklist."

You'd think that would be #1 on the list! :D

No. We all know what the #1 rule for officials is. :cool:

Rookies, Please Don't Ask ...
 

You are 100% correct. We all know. All of us. Every single one of us. So I'm 100% certain that it's not necessary for you to remind us.

Decent article. I am not sure what all of that has to do with being a role-model. That sounds like it has more to do with being a good official. I always think parents and coaches play a bigger role for kids as they do not look to us for guidance in most things. We are authority figures they hardly know.

Peace

Lights, Camera.....
 

Any thoughts on the videos?

I would wish they did not show a travel that was not a travel by a bobble. I was not able to see the video the first time as I was reading this on my phone.

Peace

The only play I questioned was the travel call. I would of judged the action a fumble.

Did anyone watch the other videos than the one that is at the start of the page?

The reason I asked I am watching this about commending players, communicating with coaches. These are many things I would not do or not stop play to do. I have no problem with the comments of the girls on the floor and they called a jump ball, but not telling the player about a good throw-in. That to me goes a little far. I really did not like how the official stopped what he was doing to talk to a coach which appears to be about another official's call.

Peace

How About Just "Block" ???
 

"Got here. Got here. It's a block".

What?

Give Me A Little Traveling Music Sammy ...
 

I don't have a travel here either.

Blue shoots and misses. White rebounds. Official stops the game to warn a blue player about the lane.

I don't find this acceptable at any level.

Then in another clip the official calls a double dribble and stops what he is doing to explain it to him. What???? I am not doing that either. Not on minor violations like that I am not.

Peace

The taller white guy's visible count mechanic looks like the foul-tip signal in baseball.

Then how do you expect to be a role model? ;)

Bleccch!
 

I suffered thru all the instructional videos and nearly lost my lunch where a partner came to offer help on the OOB. Original call, BLUE!. Partner inserts himself and says, "Tipped off white, tipped off white"
partner says "White"

WTF?

Video "setup"?
 

It looks like to me that the video is scripted and that the players are not actually playing a game. They are setting up plays for the officials to call for the video.
On the 1st play where the official calls a block, he has no partner in trail. So he is either reffing solo or these are set up scripted plays. The contact on the play was extremely marginal and the offensive player looks like she misses on purpose.
#Edit# Okay never mind I just saw the video for "Working by yourself" and the above clip came from it. So he WAS working by himself and that contact WAS marginal :) #Edit#


Most of these "training" videos are :eek:! The production and quality are good but the content is wrong in a number of ways. :(

I think a group of people got together to do a video and probably did not have someone review the material from an educated point of view. So just like regular movies you have inconsistencies in actual real interactions. Nice try but as you can tell many of us found things we would never do or say. Like stop play just to warn a player for 3 second. I do not call that violation let alone stop play to warn someone. After all that is a real game interruptor. :)

Peace

And if you did that, you'd be suffering from gamus interruptus! :eek:

Those videos are horrible.

What is it? I'm almost a newbie.

Unless you are really "short" you do not have to worry about it. :D

Peace

Or a girl. :eek:

Use the Forum "Search" Feature
 

Don't make him write it.....ppppllease (said it my best Roger Rabbit voice).;)

Maybe If We Ignore Mark Padgett He'll Go Away ...
 

dsqrddgd909: For the sake of all that's good, and pure, and kind, and innocent in the world, please don't ask again. Please.

Signals Videos ???
 

I checked out the website and found a section on signals. The official in the video does at least two things that I found odd.

For a held ball he first stops the clock with an open hand and then follows with the held ball "thumbs up" signal. Here in our little corner of Connecticut we just give the "thumbs up" signal.

To call a technical foul he first stops the clock with an open hand, and then follows with the "T" signal. Here we stop the clock with the closed fist foul signal and then follow with the "T" signal.

Comments from other parts of the country?

The official is odd because he's not using NFHS approved and accepted signalling.

The "thumbs up" signal ...#3 of approved NFHS signals in the rule book...is captioned "stop clock for jump/held ball". He's telling you to signal to stop the clock twice iow.

All foul signals should be preceded by signal #5- "stop clock for fouls".

Not the best site for accuracy, fer sure.

Zip Code ???
 

Thanks.

Didn't realize that Hell was part of the National Federation.

It's what the "H" in what "NFHS" stands for. :p

I've personally have never seen anyone use a preceding signal before using the jump ball signal. Always just straight to the jump ball signal.

As far as technical fouls go, I've also never seen anyone go with the foul signal before a technical foul. It's either a stop clock signal or straight to the "T".

Eight Minute Periods Take Eight Minutes In Real Time ???
 

Agree. In the real world I've seen almost all officials in my local area go straight to the "T" signal, including probably me. I can't be sure about myself because whenever I give technical foul, which is seldom, I'm usually pretty pissed off, and emotions take precedent over remembering what I've done, and, of course, if I've done it correctly.

But according to the book, by the numbers, for the purpose of a test, or an evaluation, I believe that we're always supposed to stop the clock with a signal first. Since a technical foul is indeed, a foul, then we should stop the clock first with a closed fist.

After all, if we don't signal to stop the clock with an open fist signal (violation), closed fist signal (foul), or thumbs up signal (held ball), then the clock operator won't know when to stop the clock, the clock would keep running, and our crew would be out of there in record time. Of course this would mean more time after the game to consume adult beverages. Hey. Wait a minute. I think I'm onto something here?

Really?
 

While not "T" happy, I certainly give my share. As I've been taught, I try to stay emotionless and take care of bidness. After all, it's just another foul, right?

That being said, I go right to the "T", with no fist in the air. I know it's not "by the book" as you state, but, I've never had an issue.....so far.

He's Emotionless And Pissed Off ...
 

Like this guy:

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...757423a48afed2

Obviously, this isn't me. OK - when I give one while the clock is running, I give the stop clock signal first. When I give one while the clock isn't running, of course I just give the WHACK signal.

BTW - this is how I get the most exercise. :)

A little Bit Extreme?
 

No, no, no! I'm emotionless...... you're the one pissed off! :p