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Old Mon Jul 12, 2010, 01:02pm
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An alley oop pass from the corner that was well defended came in. However, the pass was long and looked more like a shot--it was clearly above the rim, on its downward arc, and would have at least hit the top side of the rim (whether back iron, far side of the hoop, near side of the hoop, or gone in is anybody's guess).
That is NOT goaltending. Goaltending can only occur on a try. Since it was judged to be a pass, it was fair game for both players. It doesn't matter that it was on its downward flight, above the rim, or if it had a chance to go in or not. (The players have to be careful though...they can't read the minds of the referee and will not know if it is being ruled a pass or try).

The only call that can happen on a pass is basket interference....where the ball is alreay over basket (in the cylinder).
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Old Mon Jul 12, 2010, 01:26pm
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That is NOT goaltending. Goaltending can only occur on a try. Since it was judged to be a pass, it was fair game for both players. It doesn't matter that it was on its downward flight, above the rim, or if it had a chance to go in or not. (The players have to be careful though...they can't read the minds of the referee and will not know if it is being ruled a pass or try).

The only call that can happen on a pass is basket interference....where the ball is alreay over basket (in the cylinder).
I can promise you that the "pass" was such that, if the offense had not jumped for the ball and the defense had caught it there would have been a young war from the offensive bench.
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Old Mon Jul 12, 2010, 01:53pm
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I can promise you that the "pass" was such that, if the offense had not jumped for the ball and the defense had caught it there would have been a young war from the offensive bench.
What's that got to do with you making the correct call or not?

As Camron said, by rule you can't call it goaltending if it you deemed it to be a pass instead of a try. You can't make a wrong call deliberately to avoid a "young war" just because the "offensive bench" doesn't know or understand the rules.
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Old Mon Jul 12, 2010, 02:18pm
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What's that got to do with you making the correct call or not?

As Camron said, by rule you can't call it goaltending if it you deemed it to be a pass instead of a try. You can't make a wrong call deliberately to avoid a "young war" just because the "offensive bench" doesn't know or understand the rules.
Nobody made any call. Just an observation.
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Old Mon Jul 12, 2010, 03:18pm
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Nobody made any call. Just an observation.
Maybe no one made a call but you (and someone on some "hotline") incorrectly made the assertion that it should have been GT....but it can't be GT if it was released as a pass

And this flies in the face of another ruling that says we can't/don't judge pass/try if a ball thrown from behind the 3-point line goes in....it counts as 3. Yet, there remains several other situations where we must do exactly that.
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