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Old Sun Jun 20, 2010, 10:35pm
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camp do's & dont's

Plan on attending a couple of camps in the upcoming weeks>What is the biggest piece of advice anyone can give maybe what there mainly looking for and what is an automatic no-no.Any info would be appreciated.
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Old Sun Jun 20, 2010, 10:37pm
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The most important no-no --

Do not EVER EVER reply "yea, but..." or any variation thereof. No matter if you disagree who have been told the complete opposite, say thank you and incorporate it into that camp -- and take it with you if you think its useful or leave it at camp if its not.
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Old Sun Jun 20, 2010, 10:52pm
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Thanx im always willing to listen and very respectful thought I was going to a camp where there may be on court traing.My mentor told me about the camp and told told me I should attend.(said i was ready)Couple of guys said it would be helpful,turns out its more of a showcase camp and I'm a little nervous.Just trying to get some info from guys that may have attended some of these camps.
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Old Mon Jun 21, 2010, 04:43am
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Some of this depends on the type of camp you are attending, but this is really what works no matter what. If this is a college camp where they are hiring people for a league this works well too. A teaching camp might be a little more laid back, but at those types of camps people can and will recommend people to others that actually give games. So it is best to do some of these things and more if need be.
  1. Hustle
    You cannot defend not hustling. You will get credit for doing this even if you do not know what you are completely doing. It shows character and shows you take what you are doing seriously.
  2. Always listen to clinicians
    Do this when you are working and when you are not working. It is always a good idea if there is a court where you will work to watch a game or two before. Then you can learn what they want you to do and you follow it completely. And if you see a clinician(s) talking to guys that just worked, go to that conversation.
  3. Do not hold auxiliary conversations when clinicians are talking
    You do not want to be talking to other officials at least right in the court area. It just looks bad as there is always a "know it all" that is trying to tell people what to do and have no idea what is expected.
  4. Clinicians do not care what else you have been told before.
    This drives guys crazy. They do not care what other camps you have been to or what those have told you before. Just do what is asked at the camp. You will not always agree, but never tell them..."Jeff Rutledge told me....." because they will ask who that is or may not respect that person. Even if it is someone that is big time they still may not care who that person is. Just do what they are teaching and then do what works when you leave.
  5. Pick up pennies.
    This is probably the biggest. You will not agree with everything people tell you. You might even be told mechanics that do not apply to the level you work. Deal with it. Many times clinicians are telling you things that work for them. It may not work for you and that is OK. You do not need to have a debate with them about it. Just listen and pick up little things. If you can pick up a little thing from each clinician than you have got your monies worth. You do not need to completely take on everything you are told.

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Old Mon Jun 21, 2010, 08:47am
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Some of this depends on the type of camp you are attending, but this is really what works no matter what. If this is a college camp where they are hiring people for a league this works well too. A teaching camp might be a little more laid back, but at those types of camps people can and will recommend people to others that actually give games. So it is best to do some of these things and more if need be.
  1. Hustle
    You cannot defend not hustling. You will get credit for doing this even if you do not know what you are completely doing. It shows character and shows you take what you are doing seriously.
  2. Always listen to clinicians
    Do this when you are working and when you are not working. It is always a good idea if there is a court where you will work to watch a game or two before. Then you can learn what they want you to do and you follow it completely. And if you see a clinician(s) talking to guys that just worked, go to that conversation.
  3. Do not hold auxiliary conversations when clinicians are talking
    You do not want to be talking to other officials at least right in the court area. It just looks bad as there is always a "know it all" that is trying to tell people what to do and have no idea what is expected.
  4. Clinicians do not care what else you have been told before.
    This drives guys crazy. They do not care what other camps you have been to or what those have told you before. Just do what is asked at the camp. You will not always agree, but never tell them..."Jeff Rutledge told me....." because they will ask who that is or may not respect that person. Even if it is someone that is big time they still may not care who that person is. Just do what they are teaching and then do what works when you leave.
  5. Pick up pennies.
    This is probably the biggest. You will not agree with everything people tell you. You might even be told mechanics that do not apply to the level you work. Deal with it. Many times clinicians are telling you things that work for them. It may not work for you and that is OK. You do not need to have a debate with them about it. Just listen and pick up little things. If you can pick up a little thing from each clinician than you have got your monies worth. You do not need to completely take on everything you are told.

Peace
This is GREAT advice. Also, try out the advice you are given. Like Jeff said, not all of it will work for you, but wou will never know unless you try it out.
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Old Mon Jun 21, 2010, 09:01am
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leave. [*]Pick up pennies.
This is probably the biggest. You will not agree with everything people tell you. You might even be told mechanics that do not apply to the level you work. Deal with it. Many times clinicians are telling you things that work for them. It may not work for you and that is OK. You do not need to have a debate with them about it. Just listen and pick up little things. If you can pick up a little thing from each clinician than you have got your monies worth. You do not need to completely take on everything you are told. [/LIST]
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Not a basketball guy, but this is darn good advice for all sports clinics/camps.....I go to more than my share of baseball clinics, looking for that "Nugget"..........or penny as you put it....If I come away with one item that makes me better it was all worth it....
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Old Mon Jun 21, 2010, 10:18am
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As much as some of these camps cost there should be something bigger than 'penny's'
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Old Mon Jun 21, 2010, 11:29pm
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Not a basketball guy, but this is darn good advice for all sports clinics/camps.....I go to more than my share of baseball clinics, looking for that "Nugget"..........or penny as you put it....If I come away with one item that makes me better it was all worth it....
For the record I got this little "nugget" from someone else. I was at a conference where someone associated with ABA told this little story about picking up pennies. I have used it every since and it works. Basically if all you do is pick up one penny from someone you are better off than you were before. You do not have to accept everything someone tells you. I have looked at camps and life through this lens and it works for me.

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