"I'm 52 years old, and in all my years..."

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

OK, help me out here. What is MAYB???

It's what I tell my wife when she asks if I want to take out the garbage.

[Pantherdreams]

A simple" You should get out more!" Probably does the trick here.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by DLH17

"You are the most whistle happy official I've ever seen....."

"Yes - I do try to keep my whistle happy. I let it get sad once and it bit me on my tongue. Thanks for the input. Coming from an expert like you it means a lot."

[bainsey]

I worked one years ago with the director of a rec league, who administrates for a living, but doesn't officiate.

Late in a game and during a time out, he comes to me and says, "Okay, number 20 has four fouls. Let's make sure the last one isn't a marginal one." I heartily explain to him that I never, ever want to know how many fouls a player has, because it can indeed compromise one's judgment and integrity.

"Well," he ponders as he looks away, "let's just agree to disagree."

[tref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I heartily explain to him that I never, ever want to know how many fouls a player has, because it can indeed compromise one's judgment and integrity.

Really?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Local competitive leagues - 5/6 grade and 7/8 grade.

Originally Posted by DLH17

If you don't want to run your butt off and risk injury for a competitive tournament game, don't.

I think this discussion has more or less defined "hustle" for competitive tournament games, tho. And, it would obviously be something less than a Tues/Fri night boys big class varsity game.

No matter how you try to sugar coat it, it is still just a little kids game that is paying about half (or less) of the normal rate.

Originally Posted by DLH17

My POV is "completely" off? Interesting. Not according to my assignor. He asks for 4 things from his officials: be on time = 15 mins early, call fouls/violations, don't say anything to anyone you don't want repeated and be in position to make calls = hustle.

Yes, you're off.

Your biggest type of complaints in the early part of the thread seemed to be not switching and not coming to mid-court to report. Yet, the assignor's 4 items don't include anything about that. Not switching has nothing to do with being in position to make calls.

Originally Posted by DLH17

And, to be honest, I'm appalled by the lack of hustle and interest on the part of the officials working some of her games. Little to no switching, reporting from the baseline by the lead official, no bump and run.

While there are a few that probably don't hustle to be in position, most offiicals I know do hustle while the ball is live and cut the corners in the dead ball mechanics....the stuff that has basically no effect 99% of the time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I worked one years ago with the director of a rec league, who administrates for a living, but doesn't officiate.

Late in a game and during a time out, he comes to me and says, "Okay, number 20 has four fouls. Let's make sure the last one isn't a marginal one." I heartily explain to him that I never, ever want to know how many fouls a player has, because it can indeed compromise one's judgment and integrity.

"Well," he ponders as he looks away, "let's just agree to disagree."

I smile and say ok. If I'm feeling ornery, I'd ask, "so which of the first four do you think were marginal?"

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I worked one years ago with the director of a rec league, who administrates for a living, but doesn't officiate.

Late in a game and during a time out, he comes to me and says, "Okay, number 20 has four fouls. Let's make sure the last one isn't a marginal one." I heartily explain to him that I never, ever want to know how many fouls a player has, because it can indeed compromise one's judgment and integrity.

"Well," he ponders as he looks away, "let's just agree to disagree."

Hmmm. fan comes out of the stands to talk to the referee? Sounds like an easy EJ to me. Don't care what your day job is - once the game starts everyone in the stands is just a fan.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Hmmm. fan comes out of the stands to talk to the referee?

No, this was my partner, who just filled in as an official.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by DLH17

"...of watching basketball, I've never said anything to an official after a game until now." "You are the most whistle happy official I've ever seen in those 52 years. I just thought you should know that."

This is the fan feedback I received after an MAYB game over the weekend in which 3 players on "her" team fouled themselves out of the game....and lost by 15 points in the process.

I could only smile and chuckle as she removed all doubt that she was absolutely clueless about the game and how it should be officiated.

After reading through this thread I'm gonna say that Grandma has more credibility here in my eyes.

From your comments you seem (to me) to be a less experienced guy who needlessly stresses switching and reporting from a certain area in summer sets, claims to have worked 16 games in 2 days without slowing down at all, is star struck by varsity coaches, and may take yourself a bit too seriously. My experience with officials like this leads me to believe that there is a good possibility that you are whistle happy as well.

I will still work some AAU/summer league type set ups where I do 4-5 or even more games in one day. I do these for the guy who called many of my HS games and mentored me as an official. Many of us have worked for him for years and know the tricks of the trade to save our legs in these type of situations. And the assinger encourages it. We hustle during live ball and get in position to have good angles on plays but on dead ball situations we work together to save ourselves for the long haul. Coaches, players, and fans don't notice this and the very few that do understand and are concerned with the accuracy of calls and how we manage the game, nothing else.

I understand if you are working on something or practicing your mechanics but there is really no reason to exert extra energy on the type of stuff your stressing in these situations. And as others have said people understand that you are not gonna get the same type of officiating paying people $25/game and asking them to work multiple games in a row as you are when guys are making $70 and working 1 game. That's life and common sense.

Whenever I step on the court I will do my best to give the competitors quality officiating but I am also gonna be smart and efficient in how I spend my energy in AAU/summer tournament ball.