"Spirit of the Rules"

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Hey - watch those travels, guys. Hey - watch those stepping out of bounds, guys. Hey - watch those punches in the mouth, guys.

OMG, you must have been at the AAU Tournament I was at last weekend!?!?! Were you the other guy wearing a black and white stripped shirt I was just commenting on the specific play as givien.

I will admit that I have been know from time to time to verbally warn a player in the post that it might be in their best interest to vacate the premises. Usually if a player is just ball watching or just hanging out, I will try to snap the player out of their daze. I just say "Lane" and that usually works. If that oratory gem doesn't do the trick, I make a high schrieking sound with a little plastic object I sometimes use. That often does the trick as well!!!
As an adendum, so SOME people don't jump to a negative conclusion, I am NOT a big fan of doing that when it comes to fouls. That is just to slippery a slope IMO.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Were you the other guy wearing a black and white stripped shirt

His shirt was stripped!?!?! You mean there was an official out there without a shirt on! Did the other official give him a technical?

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

His shirt was stripped!?!?! You mean there was an official out there without a shirt on! Did the other official give him a technical?

Didn't I mention it was a tournament sponsored by Chip N Dales??! I worked their JV tournament known as the Chips A Hoy tournament

[justacoach]

Ran the original sitch by our State rules interpreter...

the tersely worded answer favored the 'spirited' approach.....

Have no response yet to my request for a rules cite...

Hoodathunk??

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Ran the original sitch by our State rules interpreter...

the tersely worded answer favored the 'spirited' approach.....

Have no response yet to my request for a rules cite...

And I wouldn't be expecting one anytime soon.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Ran the original sitch by our State rules interpreter...

the tersely worded answer favored the 'spirited' approach.....

Have no response yet to my request for a rules cite...

Hoodathunk??

Time for you to have some fun, Justa.....

Iirc, the question was when to start a 10-second count when the ball goes into the backcourt after team control was obtained in the frontcourt, correct?

Ask your state rules interpreter if his personal definition of what the the "spirit and intent of a rule" is can supercede a definitive ruling issued by the NFHS rules committee.

From the 2008-09 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations as posted on the NFHS website:

SITUATION #8
A1 is dribbling in his/her frontcourt when B1 deflects the ball into A's backcourt. The ball is bouncing towards the endline in A's backcourt when A1 and B1 give chase. B1 & A1 each contact the ball, but neither gains control. Finally, after numerous attempts by each player, A1 gains possession deep in A1's backcourt. When does the 10-second count begin for team A?
RULING: The count starts as soon as the ball GOES INTO THE BACKCOURT since team control has not ended(4-12-3; 9-8).

Here's the link:

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...s-archive.html

Lah me......

Kinda sad when a state rules interpreter issues a ruling that is completely contradictory to a definitive NFHS ruling.