Twenty four or two four?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

I have always used the full number. The main assignor in Central Ohio demands the full number. His reasoning is that player #1 and #2 is at a distinct disadvantage since a foul on 1-2 (i.e. 12) can be erroneously assigned to #1 and/or #2 in error.

And using that same logic, when you report a foul on fourteen, there's a chance it could be assigned to four by mistake if the scorer doesn't hear your "teen". And, when you do report it, do you say "four" when holding up one finger, then "teen" when holding up 4 fingers?

I guess we could find all kinds of reasons why one method is better than another, especially since the mechanics book doesn't get that specific. The bottom line is effective communication with the table. That's why it's important to know how it's done in your area, so the scorekeeper doesn't have to adjust what they hear and look at between different games, or even between partners in the same game. That's the best way to avoid mistakes.

[rockyroad]

[QUOTE=M&M Guy;676525

so the scorekeeper doesn't have to adjust what they hear and look at between different games, or even between partners in the same game. That's the best way to avoid mistakes.[/QUOTE]

Or even between the last foul you reported and the next one you report. I've seen people do it one way on one report, and then do it the other way the next time they report. That's the main thing we are trying to avoid. I could not care less whether you do it as "Two, four" or as "Twenty-four", as long as you are consistent in the way you report.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

That's why it's important to know how it's done in your area, so the scorekeeper doesn't have to adjust what they hear and look at between different games, or even between partners in the same game. That's the best way to avoid mistakes.

This would be something to discuss with the table personnel before the game starts. May seem trivial, but it could save a big mix-up later on.

[Adam]

I used to be a "two-four" person. Now, it's "twenty-four." I used to verbalize the infraction, now I don't.

"Blue, twenty-four, two shots."

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I used to be a "two-four" person. Now, it's "twenty-four." I used to verbalize the infraction, now I don't.

"Blue, twenty-four, two shots."

Stupid question...I assume the infraction is still signaled?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Stupid question...I assume the infraction is still signaled?

Not a stupid question.
Yes, it's still signaled, I didn't address my hand signals, which still include the numbers on the jersey and the infraction.

[Welpe]

Interesting. What is the rationale for not verbalizing the infraction? Giving somebody one less thing to argue about?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Interesting. What is the rationale for not verbalizing the infraction? Giving somebody one less thing to argue about?

Yep.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Interesting. What is the rationale for not verbalizing the infraction? Giving somebody one less thing to argue about?

Yep. I've been taught - "you can't quote silence." In the case of reporting, less talk is better.

"Red, 24" (insert signal) "two"

[bigwhistle]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Stupid question...I assume the infraction is still signaled?

You are reporting the color and number to the scorer at the table. After they get this information they don't care what kind of foul you have. When signalling the type of infraction (and or and not verbalizing the infraction) you are now giving additional information to the coaches who are watching, and maybe the fans who are watching what you are doing.

[Zoochy]

Somewhere in the book it states to report "the number". To me, the number is twenty-four. Confusion is reduced when an official moves briskly to the reporting area, stops, and verbalizes to the scorekeeeper , a made basket (if applicable), the color of the jersey, the number (displaying each number individually on one hand), type of foul and how many shots (if applicable). See official manual for reporting area.
And you college officials. DO NOT bring the 2-hand reporting down to the high school game.

[Zoochy]

I forgot to ask. How would you report "twenty-four" in binary?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

I forgot to ask. How would you report "twenty-four" in binary?

You wouldn't. Your assignors would tell you to speed up the game. And if you were doing the JV game, the varsity officials would give you some 'advice'. [knowing you meant to type in blue]

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

I forgot to ask. How would you report "twenty-four" in binary?

One finger, one finger, clenched fist, clenched fist, clenched fist.

Screw it. I'm sticking with base ten (or base six, in this case).

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bainsey

One finger, one finger, clenched fist, clenched fist, clenched fist.

Screw it. I'm sticking with base ten (or base six, in this case).

I just use the base that is equivalent to the current number I'm reporting. Much eaiser just hold up one finger for every foul.