Twenty four or two four?

[jdmara]

I've been told both ways at different camps. I actually do both as odd as that sounds.

{Foul is on} "24, {Two fingers} 2, {Four fingers} 4, Contact, Two shots....."

Always worked well for me.

-Josh

[APG]

I've always been a full number guy. Never had a problem doing that way and never had anyone say anything about it.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

TWENTY-FOUR


MTD, Sr.

[bas2456]

In my limited time on the court, I've verbalized each individual digit as I display the number with my hand.

I've had a lot of partners who have done both while reporting, and I don't find anything wrong with it. As long as the table is clear on who is to be charged with the foul, it doesn't matter to me how ya do it.

[Judtech]

I have a very difficult time with the "When In Rome" reasoning. It is bad enough that NCAA -W NFHS/NCAAA Men have different signals. It is hard enough remembering which way to report with out trying to 'figure' out how to report 24 as: XXIV or XX IV or II IV !?!?!?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jdmara

I've been told both ways at different camps. I actually do both as odd as that sounds.

{Foul is on} "24, {Two fingers} 2, {Four fingers} 4, Contact, Two shots....."

Always worked well for me.

-Josh

YUCK. You give the number to the scorer twice?
Please cease doing that immediately.
Nothing looks more like a rookie.

[CMHCoachNRef]

I have always used the full number. The main assignor in Central Ohio demands the full number. His reasoning is that player #1 and #2 is at a distinct disadvantage since a foul on 1-2 (i.e. 12) can be erroneously assigned to #1 and/or #2 in error.

[Jay R]

I have always used the two digits. The main assignor in Anywhere USA demands the two digits. His reasoning is that player #20 and #4 is at a distinct disadvantage since a foul on twenty four (i.e. 2-4) can be erroneously assigned to #20 and/or #4 in error.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

I have always used the full number. The main assignor in Central Ohio demands the full number. His reasoning is that player #1 and #2 is at a distinct disadvantage since a foul on 1-2 (i.e. 12) can be erroneously assigned to #1 and/or #2 in error.

And using that same logic, when you report a foul on fourteen, there's a chance it could be assigned to four by mistake if the scorer doesn't hear your "teen". And, when you do report it, do you say "four" when holding up one finger, then "teen" when holding up 4 fingers?

I guess we could find all kinds of reasons why one method is better than another, especially since the mechanics book doesn't get that specific. The bottom line is effective communication with the table. That's why it's important to know how it's done in your area, so the scorekeeper doesn't have to adjust what they hear and look at between different games, or even between partners in the same game. That's the best way to avoid mistakes.

[rockyroad]

[QUOTE=M&M Guy;676525

so the scorekeeper doesn't have to adjust what they hear and look at between different games, or even between partners in the same game. That's the best way to avoid mistakes.[/QUOTE]

Or even between the last foul you reported and the next one you report. I've seen people do it one way on one report, and then do it the other way the next time they report. That's the main thing we are trying to avoid. I could not care less whether you do it as "Two, four" or as "Twenty-four", as long as you are consistent in the way you report.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

That's why it's important to know how it's done in your area, so the scorekeeper doesn't have to adjust what they hear and look at between different games, or even between partners in the same game. That's the best way to avoid mistakes.

This would be something to discuss with the table personnel before the game starts. May seem trivial, but it could save a big mix-up later on.

[Adam]

I used to be a "two-four" person. Now, it's "twenty-four." I used to verbalize the infraction, now I don't.

"Blue, twenty-four, two shots."

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I used to be a "two-four" person. Now, it's "twenty-four." I used to verbalize the infraction, now I don't.

"Blue, twenty-four, two shots."

Stupid question...I assume the infraction is still signaled?

[Zoochy]

Somewhere in the book it states to report "the number". To me, the number is twenty-four. Confusion is reduced when an official moves briskly to the reporting area, stops, and verbalizes to the scorekeeeper , a made basket (if applicable), the color of the jersey, the number (displaying each number individually on one hand), type of foul and how many shots (if applicable). See official manual for reporting area.
And you college officials. DO NOT bring the 2-hand reporting down to the high school game.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

YUCK. You give the number to the scorer twice?
Please cease doing that immediately.
Nothing looks more like a rookie.

I disagree. I think there are far more rookiesque things than, "White, twenty-four! White, two, four!"

Besides, taking another second for the sake of clarity seldom hurt anyone, and could prevent the scorekeeper saying, "what number was that?"