One year later...

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Oz Referee


I should study the events surrounding WWII? I have a degree in Modern European History - specialising in Germany betwee 1920 and 1950 - but thanks for the tip.

Iraq is in violation to the conditions set down by the UN. This does not change the fact that the USA jumps the gun. The UN has not yet supported military action in Iraq, yet the USA has already committed to it.

The USA is the first country to support the UN when it suits them - but when the rest of the world supported Kyoto (sadly with the exception of Australia) America was didn't want to know about it.

Finally - as a couple of people here have already said - history is subjective. My father was born in Germany in 1943, and the history that he learnt in high school was radically different to the history that I was taught (and that many of you would have learnt). However, this does not mean that it is wrong - simply different.

1 - The comparisons between Iraq today & 1930's Germany is startling, I'm disappointed you didn't take this into
account in your criticism of US policy towards Iraq.
Here's a tip: I suggest that if your degree is in Modern European history you might want to get a refund.

2. Kyoto is a red herring. No country ratified and
implemented Kyoto in its original form. Only recently, after many changes, is it just being accepted.

3. My mother was born in London in 1930 and due to her
father's Italian citizenship they were forced to leave
England & go to northern Italy from 1940 until 1946, during
the time of the Nazi occupation. As I already mentioned my
father served in WW2. I was born and raised in NYC and count
many jewish families as friends, I personally know people
with serial numbers tatooed on their arms. There is nothing
subjective in the first person accounts of European history told to me by any of the many people I know who
lived there during this period. I also know people who
sadly claim the atrocities of WW2 never happened (they
of course do not have first hand knowledge). Are you
saying they are not wrong, but simply "different"?

Finally, when you awake you'll learn that due to the pressure put on Iraq by the US the Iraqi government has
capitulated and announced they will finally allow
weapons inspectors in, per UN resolutions. Now, use your education and imagine how different modern European
history might have been if Neville Chamberlain would have
had the guts to "jump the gun" in 1936.