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Old Sun Mar 21, 2010, 02:41pm
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John Adams likes newer and up and coming officials. He also does not like guys who cannot keep up anymore. And that is probably why if you look at other big time names, they are also not on the list as well. Or if they make the tournament, they are not going as far as they did under Adams as they did with Hank Nichols.

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Old Mon Mar 22, 2010, 06:08am
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I think there was some question if Rick Hartzell got all of his paperwork done before the deadline to be able to work the NCAA Tournament.
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Old Mon Mar 22, 2010, 08:04am
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I agree...nothing wrong with getting some new faces in there and I think that the officiating this past weekend was generally top-notch.

I guess I'm just a sentimental kind of guy. I went to Syracuse and always knew we were going to get a well officiated game when Higgins was in the dome. But, like I said...It appears to be the end of an era.

That being said, I haven't noticed Higgins having that much trouble keeping up and I give him credit, he has kept his schedule at a reasonable amount for his age unlike some of his contemporaries.

I do like seeing some of the younger faces so far and I hope it continues but my guess is that you'll see the normal crew at the Final Four though (Cahill, Corbett, Greene, etc.) with one or two new faces.
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Old Mon Mar 22, 2010, 10:32pm
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No way to do the vet. He sould have got to work the first week. There were some who called the first weekend that could not officiate a WWF event. They were killing and letting it go. Hope Tim still calls, he gets most of the big games in the Big East and big 10. Welmer made them mad last year and does not care if he gets to work the NCAA but he will still do 80 regular season games.
He does not get most of the Big games in the Big Ten anymore (not that I ever remember him getting them all anyway). That has not happen for some time. Guys like Hillary, Welmer, Hightower and Burr would usually be on those games. I cannot speak for the Big East, I am not in that region.

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No way to do the vet. He sould have got to work the first week. There were some who called the first weekend that could not officiate a WWF event. They were killing and letting it go.
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No way to do the vet. He sould have got to work the first week. There were some who called the first weekend that could not officiate a WWF event. They were killing and letting it go. Hope Tim still calls, he gets most of the big games in the Big East and big 10. Welmer made them mad last year and does not care if he gets to work the NCAA but he will still do 80 regular season games.
I didn't realize that being a "vet" got you an automatic bid into the tournament.
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Old Tue Mar 23, 2010, 09:52am
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He still does a good job, I hope you never get in his position. Just a couple of years ago he was calling the finals! He has not fell that much and his judgement is still great!
I don't understand why people get picked year after year when there are so many good D-I officials out there. Anything to get new faces opportunities is a good change, as far as I'm concerned.
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Old Tue Mar 23, 2010, 10:00am
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He still does a good job, I hope you never get in his position. Just a couple of years ago he was calling the finals! He has not fell that much and his judgement is still great!
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I don't understand why people get picked year after year when there are so many good D-I officials out there. Anything to get new faces opportunities is a good change, as far as I'm concerned.
I'm with you Rich. Instead of looking at it as a negative towards Higgins, I look at it a positive for the other very good officials who are now getting an opportunity to shine.
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I'm with you Rich. Instead of looking at it as a negative towards Higgins, I look at it a positive for the other very good officials who are now getting an opportunity to shine.
Now if only certain state HS associations would get that message.
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I don't understand why people get picked year after year when there are so many good D-I officials out there. Anything to get new faces opportunities is a good change, as far as I'm concerned.
I would totally disagree with you on this...if the best officials each year are the same officials then they should be assigned to work the NCAA tournament and any HS State Tournament. The assigning for the NCAA tourney is a very complicated process hoping to put the "best" officials to work in the Tournament. If you are good enough to work you will get your shot to work at all levels...IMO!
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Old Tue Mar 23, 2010, 12:16pm
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I would totally disagree with you on this...if the best officials each year are the same officials then they should be assigned to work the NCAA tournament and any HS State Tournament. The assigning for the NCAA tourney is a very complicated process hoping to put the "best" officials to work in the Tournament. If you are good enough to work you will get your shot to work at all levels...IMO!
Define best in this case then I have another question/comment for you.
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Old Tue Mar 23, 2010, 01:13pm
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I would totally disagree with you on this...if the best officials each year are the same officials then they should be assigned to work the NCAA tournament and any HS State Tournament. The assigning for the NCAA tourney is a very complicated process hoping to put the "best" officials to work in the Tournament. If you are good enough to work you will get your shot to work at all levels...IMO!
Best is subjective. Who's to say one official is better than another? What are the objective criteria?

It's easy to say this when you're on the inside and there are many officials trying to pound on the (seemingly) locked door. When some officials have been to the state tourney 5, 6, 10 times and there are outstanding officials who never get a shot at it, I think the system is broken. There is nothing about the officials I saw on TV last week (and I admit I didn't watch much as I'd rather watch the NCAA tourney) head and shoulders above the varsity officials I see with 25+ years experience who've never gotten the call. I think it's just easier to pick the same people year after year than try to identify new people and give them their shot.

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