Rule change thread - for real, this time

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

All of my proposed changes would be on the mechanics side of the house and have no chance of passing.

Please don't tell us you want mechanics for reaching and over-the-back fouls. Gee, maybe we should add one for the "up and down" violation.

[ref3808]

Time out requests during a live ball must come from players.

[wyo96]

Rule 1: I would like to see the arrow switch when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower. Would make it uniform when there was a foul or violation that the Team throwing "used" the arrow.

Rule 2: I agree that team possession should be established when at the disposal of the thrower. Just like the "flow" this creates and would be easier to administer. (keeping the BC exceptions as described above.

Mechanic: Two hand reporting of player numbers. I had the opportunity to work at the table for close to 48 games over two weekends, since our HS hosted the 2A and 3A regional tourneys and a few of the officials must work some women’s games and they would report with two hands. Made it MUCH easier for the table help to know who the foul was on in a loud gym or if the official has "busy" figures. . ( BTW it was a GREAT great perspective for an official, I recommend you try working/sitting at the table for few games and you will have a greater appreciation for the challenges that part of the officiating team has to deal with)

[Nevadaref]

Undershirts may not have sleeves which extend past the elbow.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Undershirts may not have sleeves which extend past the elbow.

Reasoning?

[Rock Chalk]

I would like to move the 20 minute warm up period to 15. Officals need to be on the court by 10 minutes on the clock and line-ups must be in with 7 minutes to play. Kids don't need the 20 minutes. In a decent amount of games this year we had teams walk to their bench the last 3 minutes and just sit and talk want wait for everything to start.

[Kingsman1288]

My wish would be a very minor mechanics change, instituting a mechanic for a hit to the head we can use while reporting a foul. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I think it would help with communication. The general, all purpose "hit" mechanic is sometimes just that, too general.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Undershirts may not have sleeves which extend past the elbow.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Reasoning?

1. They are unnecessary as basketball is an indoor game.
2. Would match the current NCAA rule.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

They are unnecessary as basketball is an indoor game.

Sleeves above the elbow are necessary?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

1. They are unnecessary as basketball is an indoor game.
2. Would match the current NCAA rule.

What's the difference between wearing 2 shooting sleeves under an undershirt with sleeves down too the elbow?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by wyo96

Rule 1: I would like to see the arrow switch when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower. Would make it uniform when there was a foul or violation that the Team throwing "used" the arrow.

+7
M&M, take note. I'm not alone.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

+7
M&M, take note. I'm not alone.

That's ok, I'm sure Don Quixote had a side-kick too.

When a team is awarded an AP throw-in, it only makes sense the arrow switches when the throw-in is completed.

I like windmills too, just not enough to go tilting at them...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

That's ok, I'm sure Don Quixote had a side-kick too.

When a team is awarded an AP throw-in, it only makes sense the arrow switches when the throw-in is completed.

I like windmills too, just not enough to go tilting at them...

Makes more sense to me to consider that everything that happens once the ball is at the disposal of the thrower is the direct result of that. Obviously, the committee currently feels the AP grants an entire throw-in, which doesn't make sense to me. Grant them the ball to initiate the throw-in and switch it. It will have done it's job, IMO.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Makes more sense to me to consider that everything that happens once the ball is at the disposal of the thrower is the direct result of that. Obviously, the committee currently feels the AP grants an entire throw-in, which doesn't make sense to me. Grant them the ball to initiate the throw-in and switch it. It will have done it's job, IMO.

And then we gotta explain to a coach why he just lost the arrow when the other team kicked the ball before it was legally touched on the throw-in.

Any coach with an IQ higher than a kumquat is gonna be teaching his players to try and kick the ball every time when defending an an AP throw-in.

It doesn't really make sense to me to have a team gain an advantage by committing a violation. I'm with M&M.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Please don't tell us you want mechanics for reaching and over-the-back fouls. Gee, maybe we should add one for the "up and down" violation.

And one when one player suplexes another. And the "creeping death" foul, too.

No, I'd eliminate from the manual the silly stop clock on out of bounds violations and I'd have no problem with allowing more descriptive foul signals -- like hit to the head, trip, etc.