Annual NF rule change thread

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Really?

OT - Funny story from yesterday's 9th/10th Grade All-Star Game. This is one of those Rec Leagues that has Pennies for jerseys. As my P and I take the court I noticed White has three number 22's, two 24's and two 42's. Turns out the league only has about eight jerseys/pennies per team and they get to where them for the All-Star Game, and of the ten players on one team, seven have duplicate numbers.

League Director kept the books and knew all the kids so when we said W22 and kind of "bird-dogged" the perp, he knew who it was......

[Scuba_ref]

Originally Posted by bwstudentref

Dont you think you should be concerned with the game and and not the people in the stands who ever it may be???

You are correct...it is unrealistic to assume that, as officials, we can see 5 rows up. These "moms" need to be moved courtside when discovered.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bwstudentref

Dont you think you should be concerned with the game and and not the people in the stands who ever it may be???

Wait til you get older.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I even used it in college if I was near our star player and knew he was in foul trouble up went the hand!!! It worked most of the time!

I call boolsh!t! The mechanic used at that time was to bird-dog until the hand went up. We also had to tell the player and the player then had 5 seconds to raise their hand. So no, trying sumthin' like that never worked most of the time or even some of the time. Unless you're talking about college intramurals with pick-up officials.

[Amesman]

In high school, our coach had the best FT shooter on the team toe the line whenever possible after a nearby teammate was fouled. Happened a handful of times. Maybe less. Was easy enough to play off with confusion if ever questioned by a man with a whistle. Was corrected maybe 25% of the time.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Amesman

In high school, our coach had the best FT shooter on the team toe the line whenever possible after a nearby teammate was fouled. Happened a handful of times. Maybe less. Was easy enough to play off with confusion if ever questioned by a man with a whistle. Was corrected maybe 25% of the time.

So, as an official, this is probably a POE for you. Know the shooter.

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

After a player commits a foul, they should raise their hand or it's a technical foul.

Since FIBA is switching to a rectangular restricted area you should change yours into some other fancy polygon. What about a pentagon?

Ciao

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by eg-italy

Since FIBA is switching to a rectangular restricted area you should change yours into some other fancy polygon. What about a pentagon?

Ciao

Great idea. I think one of these on every court would be cool. It might cut down on rough play.

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Great idea. I think one of these on every court would be cool. It might cut down on rough play.

But, oh, the red tape when reporting a foul ... and those creases better be concrete-straight in those Sansabelts

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I call boolsh!t! The mechanic used at that time was to bird-dog until the hand went up. We also had to tell the player and the player then had 5 seconds to raise their hand. So no, trying sumthin' like that never worked most of the time or even some of the time. Unless you're talking about college intramurals with pick-up officials.

No it was real live intercollegiate athletics.(Although I did play intramural soccer, flag football, frisbee golf and softball) Some of the games were even on that new fangled television invention. If there was a cluster in the lane and the whistle blew, up went my hand. I knew I had fouls to give and I knew my role on the team. It is also basic human nature to take the path of least resistance. Official blows whistle on a foul, sees a hand go up, why NOT give it to that guy he was near the play.
While I am sure you are the only official who never lost a players number on a foul, there are those out there who ARE fallible and as a player I more than certainly took advantage of it. And if the opposing coach picked up on it, that just made it more fun.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Amesman

In high school, our coach had the best FT shooter on the team toe the line whenever possible after a nearby teammate was fouled. Happened a handful of times. Maybe less. Was easy enough to play off with confusion if ever questioned by a man with a whistle. Was corrected maybe 25% of the time.

I can neither confirm nor deny any personal involvment in a similar situation as a certain poster would be more likely to believe you then me!! I can also not state with any certainty that it also helps your scoring average!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I can neither confirm nor deny any personal involvment in a similar situation as a certain poster would be more likely to believe you then me!! I can also not state with any certainty that it also helps your scoring average!!

When I played I did this once; I got away with it. It was not at the direction of our coach, however.

Frankly, while it may be a good thing to do, strategically; I find it to be poor coaching. In order to agree with me, though, you'll have to think coaching at the amateur level is about more than winning games.

[Judtech]

SNAQ I would lOVE to agree with you but that may hurt your credibility on this board. So in THAT vein, I can't believe you would have such a nieve, innocent and quite frankly eggregiously out of touch expectation of athletics at the amateur level

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

SNAQ I would lOVE to agree with you but that may hurt your credibility on this board. So in THAT vein, I can't believe you would have such a nieve, innocent and quite frankly eggregiously out of touch expectation of athletics at the amateur level

My credibility level here is set in stone at this point, I think. What that level is, I have no idea.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

No it was real live intercollegiate athletics.(Although I did play intramural soccer, flag football, frisbee golf and softball) Some of the games were even on that new fangled television invention. If there was a cluster in the lane and the whistle blew, up went my hand. I knew I had fouls to give and I knew my role on the team. It is also basic human nature to take the path of least resistance. Official blows whistle on a foul, sees a hand go up, why NOT give it to that guy he was near the play.
While I am sure you are the only official who never lost a players number on a foul, there are those out there who ARE fallible and as a player I more than certainly took advantage of it. And if the opposing coach picked up on it, that just made it more fun.

Do you even know what a "birddog" is? Using the mechanics that we had to use when that rule was in effect, it was impossible for the wrong player to be charged with a foul. We had to run up to within 5 feet of the player who fouled and then point at the player's waist until he raised his arm. If he didn't raise his arm straight up within 5 seconds, we were supposed to call a "T".

And that rule was long gone before the Regan years when you said that you played.

Boolsh!t!