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Raymond Wed Mar 10, 2010 02:13pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 667470)
It's funny how it's considered childish and elementary school by someone in a non-IAABO area and it's just considered good, solid mechanics in an IAABO area.

Like I originally thought, it's much ado about nothing.

As usual, what color toga do they wear where you work? Don't wear blue when everyone else is wearing green.

Rich Wed Mar 10, 2010 02:15pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 667472)
As usual, what color toga do they wear where you work? Don't wear blue when everyone else is wearing green.

Personally, I don't judge when a partner has a minor idiosyncrasy. I'm more interested in how he calls the game.

I know some people think it's quaint when I notify the captains before the toss, but I usually just get a laugh when I say "hey, it's in the manual."

mbyron Wed Mar 10, 2010 03:32pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 667472)
Don't wear blue when everyone else is wearing green.

Why, cuz everyone will think he's sarcastic? :rolleyes:

BillyMac Wed Mar 10, 2010 05:03pm

Do They Ever Not Go All The Way Around ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 667370)
My experience is that referees who point direction for each team prior to the toss also tell the captains that we are playing the black line all the way around at the pregame meeting.

No I don't.

Nevadaref Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:21pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 667381)
You should have the same scorn then for those who don't notify the captains before the toss and for those that don't whistle in subs. After all, both of those items are in the NFHS manual.

Actually my local association made a big point about sounding the whistle when bringing in subs this year, so I do hold some scorn for those in our group who refuse to do as they have been asked and instructed.

As for the captains part, my feeling is that once the teams began thinking that they could have more than one captain on the floor, any rule pertaining to captains became useless. What if the team decided to send the entire squad to the pregame captain's meeting? What if they sent all of the seniors on Senior Night and there were 10 of them? Unfortunately, the role of the captain has been greatly eroded over time. I feel that way because I like the history and tradition of the game.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 667470)
It's funny how it's considered childish and elementary school by someone in a non-IAABO area and it's just considered good, solid mechanics in an IAABO area.

What if I consider IAABO officiating mechanics childish and fit for the elementary school level? :eek:

Rich Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:59pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 667571)
What if the team decided to send the entire squad to the pregame captain's meeting? What if they sent all of the seniors on Senior Night and there were 10 of them?

Only 4 can come out for the coin toss.

Rich Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:00pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 667571)
What if I consider IAABO officiating mechanics childish and fit for the elementary school level? :eek:

You won't get argument from me. At first glance, IAABO appears to be redundant and unnecessary, but then again I've never lived in an IAABO area.

Adam Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:09pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 667584)
You won't get argument from me. At first glance, IAABO appears to be redundant and unnecessary, but then again I've never lived in an IAABO area.

I do, and I can't argue.

Kelvin green Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:12pm

I vote for Bob's mechanics....I would do the same thing

grunewar Sat Mar 13, 2010 05:33pm

De Ja Vous.....
 
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 667410)
1) "As soon as A11 is ready, we can start."

2) "You need to find a spot and not change."

So, last night I have this same team again (see post 1). My P and I have our pregame and I tell him the events of Monday night.....

I do the opening tap. What do you think A11 does? Yep, same shenagigans from Monday. He won't get settled. I invoke Bob's - "As soon as A11 is ready we'll start."

My P has had enough (he is very senior to me and told me he has done some college). He calls A11 over and chats with him.

Game begins. Game is not close. A is losing big, again. Late in second quarter. TWEET! I have an intentional foul on (say it with me) A11. He prevented a fast break by grabbing the player around the shoulders. Almost flagrant. Clear the lane. Shots. Ball. etc.

Late in third quarter. A11 was on the floor for a loose ball at the division line. B24 came up with it and as he breaks to run down court, from his chest laying on the floor, A11 extends his arm and trips the player. TWEET! Intentional foul. Shots. Ball. etc.

Talented kid with issues. Hope he figures it out soon. :(


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