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mbyron Thu Mar 04, 2010 02:01pm

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 666269)
Pefect. Thanks Bob ... one more, but am I correct in saying that you can't have a legal try at your opponent's basket and that adds to why you can't get a rebound and begin to dribble again?

You can't have any try -- legal or illegal -- at your opponent's basket. And there's nothing illegal about throwing a live ball into your opponent's basket, so it's a mistake to think of that as an "illegal try."

stosh Thu Mar 04, 2010 02:29pm

Another thing to consider on this if AI was fouled as he shot (threw) the ball at the wrong basket. If the ball goes in, I believe, the basket does not count since the foul causes the ball to immediately become dead. If he misses the shot, he gets it out of bounds nearest the spot of the foul (unless they are in the bonus).

Raymond Thu Mar 04, 2010 02:52pm

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Originally Posted by stosh (Post 666314)
Another thing to consider on this if AI was fouled as he shot (threw) the ball at the wrong basket. If the ball goes in, I believe, the basket does not count since the foul causes the ball to immediately become dead. If he misses the shot, he gets it out of bounds nearest the spot of the foul (unless they are in the bonus).


Whether he misses or if the ball goes in, designated throw-in at the spot nearest the foul.

BillyMac Fri Mar 05, 2010 07:41am

Just Checking ???
 
A1 receives a pass in his backcourt. For some reason A1 gets confused and throws a set shot toward the wrong basket, never lifting his pivot foot off the floor. The ball clangs and bounces around the basket and backboard, and finally falls fall off the rim and bounces on the floor. A1, with one hand, taps the ball the the ground and keeps on dribbling, now in the right direction. Legal? Right?

sseltser Fri Mar 05, 2010 08:02am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 666436)
a set shot toward the wrong basket, never lifting his pivot foot off the floor.

I believe this is key... never thought of it before. Thanks

Johnny Ringo Fri Mar 05, 2010 01:54pm

BillyMac, I would say that would be a legal play. The "set shot" would be the start of the dribble, and since they continued the dribble when the ball hit the floor and did not catch and start a NEW dribble - what you described is an illegal dribble.

shutupneff Fri Mar 05, 2010 02:19pm

And if a player attempts a jump shot at the wrong basket and gets their own rebound, it's a violation because the dribble was started with the pivot foot off the ground, right?

bob jenkins Fri Mar 05, 2010 02:31pm

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Originally Posted by shutupneff (Post 666544)
And if a player attempts a jump shot at the wrong basket and gets their own rebound, it's a violation because

It's a violation because the pronoun doesn't agree with the antecedent.

shutupneff Fri Mar 05, 2010 02:41pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 666547)
It's a violation because the pronoun doesn't agree with the antecedent.

Boo! Hiss!






[HEDGE BET]Just in case you weren't being jocular, I was just trying to keep it gender neutral[/HEDGE BET]

mbyron Fri Mar 05, 2010 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by shutupneff (Post 666549)
[HEDGE BET]Just in case you weren't being jocular, I was just trying to keep it gender neutral[/HEDGE BET]

Worthy goal, but not an excuse for bad grammar. If you make your pronouns plural, change their antecedents accordingly:
"And if players attempt a jump shot at the wrong basket and get their own rebound...."

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 05, 2010 02:54pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 666553)
Worthy goal, but not an excuse for bad grammar. If you make your pronouns plural, change their antecedents accordingly:
"And if players attempt a jump shot at the wrong basket and get their own rebound...."

What if she was the player, er, were the players, er, whatever?

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Adam Fri Mar 05, 2010 02:55pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 666553)
Worthy goal, but not an excuse for bad grammar. If you make your pronouns plural, change their antecedents accordingly:
"And if players attempt a jump shot at the wrong basket and get their own rebound...."

We need a gender-neutral pronoun. We used to have one, but apparently it too closely resembled the masculine pronoun.

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 05, 2010 02:58pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 666556)
We need a gender-neutral pronoun. We used to have one, but apparently it too closely resembled the masculine pronoun.

Are you implying all men are created equal but all women aren't? :rolleyes:

BTW - my wife has always objected to the use of the term "mankind" - not because she thinks it's not gender neutral, but because she doesn't think men are kind. :)

Adam Fri Mar 05, 2010 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 666557)
Are you implying all men are created equal but all women aren't? :rolleyes:

Sure. :rolleyes:

KCRC Fri Mar 05, 2010 03:32pm

Sounds easy until it actually happens
 
Saw this in 7th Grade Girls.

A1 throws the ball at the wrong basket and misses. B1 rebounds the ball and takes two dribbles toward the other end of the court and passes ahead to B2 who lays it in. Tweet. Official waives off the basket. Why?


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