3 pts or 2???

[kycat1]

Player A1 from behind the 3 point arch, throws a hard pass about 6' high into the middle of the lane and it bounces off the head of player B1 up into the air and goes through player A1's basket. 3 or 2 points?

Same play but while ball is in the air after it hits player B1 on the head, the horn sounds to end the quarter. Points?

[Adam]

2 points in your first scenario.
No points in your second.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

2 points in your first scenario.
No points in your second.

Is it different in college? someting in my mind is telling me it is. I need a second opinion before I listen to myself.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

Is it different in college? someting in my mind is telling me it is. I need a second opinion before I listen to myself.

Which one? The rule is actually a bit ambiguous, IMS. The intent, however, doesn't apply to this situation, otherwise a pass into the post could be tipped in by the defense and count as 3.

As for the 2nd situation, it's easy. Without a try in progress, the ball becomes dead when the horn sounds; and a dead ball going through a basket is meaningless.

[AKOFL]

The first one is the one I was thinking of. the pass from behind the three point arch which is tiped in. Thanks

[tjchamp]

I'm thinking he has scored 3 points, at least in the first situation above. 5.2.1 sit C seems to cover this play. It does not indicate it has to be a try. It just says A1 throws the ball from behind the 3-point line.

In his second sit, the official would have to make the judgement that his throw was not a try (see 4-41).

[Adam]

You might want to try a search on this topic. I know it's been discussed ad naseum.

[tjchamp]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You might want to try a search on this topic. I know it's been discussed ad naseum.

You are right. And here is a link to a thread that did discuss this.Pass to Head to Hoop

[mutantducky]

What on the off the head, there is a foul. A foul away from the ball before the shot goes in. Say A1 shot, B2 fouls A3. Count the basket? Or does the whistle cause the ball to go dead.
Or what if you tip a shot with your head and the ball somehow goes in. short guy takes a shot and tall guy goes to block it and hits off his head and goes into the basket. I would see that counting as a three if behind the line.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

What on the off the head, there is a foul. A foul away from the ball before the shot goes in. Say A1 shot, B2 fouls A3. Count the basket? Or does the whistle cause the ball to go dead.
Or what if you tip a shot with your head and the ball somehow goes in. short guy takes a shot and tall guy goes to block it and hits off his head and goes into the basket. I would see that counting as a three if behind the line.

So many scenarios in such a short post? Try numbering them for us.
Hitting with the head is not a legal try or tap, so the ball would become dead on the foul (not the whistle, the foul).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by kycat1

Player A1 from behind the 3 point arch.

If a player can make a shot over this arch, he deserves more than just three points.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

If a player can make a shot over this arch, he deserves more than just three points.

I guess it depends from which side since it is rectangular.