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Adam Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:06am
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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 664731)
I may be wrong, and if I am I have a sneaking suspicion I will find out soon, but at least around here we are not allowed to call a game a forfeit. Officials note the time and verify the score in the book. All forfeits are up to the state league and the schools.
While not having been there I would think it would be pretty obvious that the player was intentionally face guarding an official. I would ask the player for an explaination, tell him it probably is not a good idea, and if he did it again, the player would get a "T". At that point the coach would have a VERY short leash. I can see the coach telling me that HE told the player to guard me, whichwould then be a very nice opportunity to "T" the coach as well.
That coach just accused you of cheating. If a player is face guarding you, you can guarantee the coach told him to do it; guaranteed, no need to ask. Personally, I'm going flagrant on this. If you want to issue a standard T, fine. But there is no leash any longer, he's either sitting quietly the rest of the game or he's already in the locker room. No 2nd chances on this one.

Adam Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:11am
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 664733)
you would have been in a bad mood..... ;)
You should see my next post. :D

doubleringer Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:19am
They can try to face guard me all they want. They can't stop me, they can only hope to try to contain me. :D

Sounds to me like the coaching staff should be less worried about finishing the game and more worried about keeping their jobs. Any decent school system would send them packing.

bradfordwilkins Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:19am
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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 664731)
As for a Box + 1, I am a bigger fan of the Triangle + 2 but to each their own!!
Years ago I volunteered and coached 11-13 year olds at the local JCC and we ran a 1-3-1 to great success.

APG Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by doubleringer (Post 664741)
They can try to face guard me all they want. They can't stop me, they can only hope to try to contain me. :D
I barely missed my monitor after this! :D

As for the coach and player, they're getting the 2-for-1 special. And coach is done for the night.

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:12pm
So - a team is up by 25 with two minutes to go and the fans of the losing team blame it all on the refs. What else is new? :rolleyes:

CMHCoachNRef Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 664766)
So - a team is up by 25 with two minutes to go and the fans of the losing team blame it all on the refs. What else is new? :rolleyes:
Simple matter of math, Mark. Apparently, the coach in question felt that the referee team was worth a triple double. :rolleyes: Thus, the 25 point lead was still less than the 30 spot that the officiating team was worth.:confused:

Rich Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:21pm
The player face guarding me would've gotten the fastest technical I've ever given and then I would've probably ended up with two on the bench.

If it's true (stress on IF) that the officials allowed this face-guarding to happen for a long period of time, then I gotta wonder about the caliber of these officials.

asdf Thu Feb 25, 2010 02:31pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 664698)
Warning...typical fanboy nonsense involved.
I stopped reading when I saw the 15-4 foul complaint.

Doesn't suprise me that the point differential ended up almost 30.

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 25, 2010 02:50pm
These message boards basically are all the same. The officials deliberately screwed us. Yada, yada, yada.

And on this particular one, I wouldn't believe anything unless it came from the officials involved, their association or the state.

Berkut Thu Feb 25, 2010 03:21pm
I want to hear some coach complain to me about the score count. Or the travel count. Or the turnover count. Or the three point shot made count. Maybe we should endeavor to make sure they all don't get too lopsided as well.

What is it about fouls that somehow we should expect that they ought to be equal, or that the count of them ought to be something the official cares about?

RookieDude Thu Feb 25, 2010 03:45pm
...a quote from one of the "fans" posting on this link:

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"I think it's about time coaches started making noise about these high school refs. These guys get into this line of work to make a few extra bucks but in reality they play a large part on the kid's college future."

Oh brother....:rolleyes:

JRutledge Thu Feb 25, 2010 03:49pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 664842)
These message boards basically are all the same. The officials deliberately screwed us. Yada, yada, yada.

And on this particular one, I wouldn't believe anything unless it came from the officials involved, their association or the state.
Yep!!!

Peace

just another ref Thu Feb 25, 2010 05:37pm
Even to the point of, "We would have lost the game anyway, but it should have been only by 10. With the bad officiating we lost by 25. It's so unfair!!"

Welpe Thu Feb 25, 2010 07:49pm
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 664887)
Even to the point of, "We would have lost the game anyway, but it should have been only by 10. With the bad officiating we lost by 25. It's so unfair!!"
Which probably translates into: "They wouldn't have beat the spread if it weren't for the refs."


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