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Old Sat Feb 20, 2010, 01:07am
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Sounds like an intentional foul, due to the excessive nature/taking the vulnerable airborne shooter to the floor; however I would probably have passed on the tech, unless there was gesturing toward fallen player. Game is essentially over, and you can talk to the kid during free throws. Throwing gasoline on fire can make for a long last several minutes... also, don't remember high-fiving ever referenced in rules book as "taunting"... what do you tell HC if he tells you they were celebrating the effort? Seems like one would be reaching/inserting oneself when one could pass on it without harm.
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Old Sat Feb 20, 2010, 01:22am
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... what do you tell HC if he tells you they were celebrating the effort?
I literally would tell him
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Old Sat Feb 20, 2010, 03:01am
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So, we have a defender attempting to block the shot and the only contact, as I read it is on the arm (shooting arm I presume) at the elbow. Sounds like the defender was attempting to play the ball and it really doesn't seem that excessive. You even said the contact wasn't severe, just the result. Not sure that meets the definition of intentional. I don't see anything more than a basic personal foul.

Now the high 5. Were they celebrating the defensive effort (perhaps he really hustle just to get to the spot to have a chance at making a play) or the fact that the player went down hard? If the former, I don't see this as a T. Congratulating your teammate for a hustle play is not taunting...unless it is done in the face of the opponent and that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Old Sat Feb 20, 2010, 05:29am
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The contact does not sound like an intentional foul based on your own description, but I was not there so that is very hard to tell.

A T for a high five? That sounds much more dubious. If anything I would have needed much more than just a high five. Maybe something the players said or some comment to the player that was fouled? But a high five T is not very solid if you ask me. I would need more than just that action alone.

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Old Sat Feb 20, 2010, 07:19am
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It's a straight judgment call as to whether the foul on the shooter was intentional in nature, as is whether the high-five after is "taunting" also.

And from the description I wouldn't second-guess anyone who went either way on both calls. It's all in the eye of the beholder.....and the beholder is the calling official.

How's that for wishy-washy?
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