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Right. I guess what I was getting at is letting more contact go if two players without possession of the ball are going after it (i.e. incidental when the ball is suddenly 'free' after a poke-away), as opposed to, say, a defender making contact with a dribbler who is allegedly still 'with possession.'
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But, if the contact causes an advantage/disadvantage to one of the players? TWEET!
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What may be a better question is how much hand-checking and body-bumping are you allowing? If you clean that up you will get less flack on the incidental contact that may occur when a ball-handler is stripped of the ball.
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Good points. Probably too much, even though I like to think I'm pretty consistent throughout a game with it. I'm going to work on this.
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So lets be clear:
Reaching in/poking is not a foul. Contact the impedes the opponent or causes clear and immediate advantage/disadvantage is. I work with a lot of guys who call the reaching and any contact at all who when we discuss it talk about game management, "trying to clean it up early", not wanting behaviour to escalate. All that seems to get is a game with more fouls or less defense. My preference is to let it go until I can see that the hands in or on and stopping the ball handler from moving freely or the ball comes loose as a result of the contact. The one I struggle with is weak ballhandlers under physical pressure, where I feel like I'm bailing out the offense if I call contact when they were loosing the ball anyway. On the other hand if I let it go the defense just gets increasiningly aggressive smelling blood in the water. |
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These are all good comments, especially RBSQ. I was also hoping for some advice for seeing the contact more clearly. It seems that the "poke" is often out of view and it is hard to determine if there was illegal contact. Of course, the coach always thinks there is/isn't contact depending on his point of view. ![]() |
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Incidental contact is contact with an opponent which is permitted and which does not constitute a foul: Art. 2...Contact, which may result when opponents are in equally favorable positions to perform normal defensive or offensive moments, should not be considred illegal, even tough the contact may be serverse. That is the rule I would use to call/no call a call where the ball is loose. |
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