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Paul LeBoutillier Mon Feb 08, 2010 07:02pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 659656)
Our best named city is Boring, Oregon. Not kidding.

I thought "Half Way, Oregon" for the award.

BillyMac Mon Feb 08, 2010 07:16pm

Sock It To Me ...
 
A few weeks ago a player on the Connecticut womens team made a three pointer after losing one shoe. It really happened.

Adam Mon Feb 08, 2010 07:37pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 659682)
To be honest, I'm not sure if there is a local listing on this one. The shoe was on the court, though, and I didn't want it to be a hazard going to the other end. If he was holding and/or putting on the shoe, I'd let him do that on his own time.

If it's still there when we get back, lying in the middle of the court, I might stop it. I would hope it would disappear by that time, however. If it's a safety issue, ok. But as lead, I might just pick it up on my way through and put it down on the bleachers.

Rich Mon Feb 08, 2010 07:52pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 659703)
If it's still there when we get back, lying in the middle of the court, I might stop it. I would hope it would disappear by that time, however. If it's a safety issue, ok. But as lead, I might just pick it up on my way through and put it down on the bleachers.

Eh, I'm ambivalent on this one. I may have had this once in the last 8 years (and it was just last week). I stopped it, nobody said anything, and both teams had subs waiting to enter. I really didn't think twice until I saw this thread today.

Paul LeBoutillier Mon Feb 08, 2010 08:19pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 659707)
Eh, I'm ambivalent on this one. I may have had this once in the last 8 years (and it was just last week). I stopped it, nobody said anything, and both teams had subs waiting to enter. I really didn't think twice until I saw this thread today.

Same here. No one minded that I stopped play. Gave the kid a chance to get his shoe on and we started again with OOB throw-in closest to where they had the ball when I blew my whistle. I guess you could argue that a kid on the floor with just one shoe constitutes an unfair advantage for the other team? :rolleyes:

Juulie Downs Mon Feb 08, 2010 08:21pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 659700)
A few weeks ago a player on the Connecticut womens team made a three pointer after losing one shoe. It really happened.

So, what's your point? Most of the players on the Connecticut women's team could make a 3-pointer after losing one shoe, one contact lens, while facing backward and doing pushups! I'm no Auriemma fan, but that team is absolutely unbelievable!

Loudwhistle Mon Feb 08, 2010 08:25pm

Trumped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 659656)
Our best named city is Boring, Oregon. Not kidding.

:D Hey I got you beat on that one Mark, we have a town named Tatitlek and the people that live there are called tatitlicks! My kind of people!

BillyMac Mon Feb 08, 2010 08:43pm

Nothing But Net ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs (Post 659717)
Most of the players on the Connecticut women's team could make a 3-pointer after losing one shoe, one contact lens, while facing backward and doing pushups!

They're good, but not this good:

YouTube - Larry Bird vs. Michael Jordan McDonalds commercial

Freddy Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:39pm

A Reverent Moment
 
Officials' timeout...all gather at midcourt for a devout moment of silence for the sole that was lost. Play resumes at POI.

Sorry :p

Thumper68 Tue Feb 09, 2010 08:46am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 659677)
No. and we train our officials not to stop play either.

Displaced eyeglasses, yes. Shoes, no.

And you won't see play stopped at the NCAA level either for shoes(or you shouldn't).

Is a displaced contact considered the same as displaced eyeglasses? I observed a BV game last week where H1 had a contact come out. He was holding it on the tip of his finger, and asking the official to stop play. Official did not stop play, and waited for the next dead ball. Home coach not happy!

Also what is the rule reference for the eyeglasses. I know that I have read it but am having a brain cramp this morning.

Thanks,

Jurassic Referee Tue Feb 09, 2010 09:17am

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Originally Posted by Thumper68 (Post 659871)
Is a displaced contact considered the same as displaced eyeglasses? I observed a BV game last week where H1 had a contact come out. He was holding it on the tip of his finger, and asking the official to stop play. Official did not stop play, and waited for the next dead ball. Home coach not happy!

Also what is the rule reference for the eyeglasses. I know that I have read it but am having a brain cramp this morning.

NFHS rule 5-11EXCEPTION(a)...includes displaced contacts. You stop the game but don't charge the player's team with a TO.

Note that "displaced shoes" are nowhere to be found in that exception.

Adam Tue Feb 09, 2010 09:19am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 659881)
NFHS rule 5-11EXCEPTION(a)...includes displaced contacts. You stop the game but don't charge the player's team with a TO.

I've done both this year, first time for each. Weird year.

grunewar Tue Feb 09, 2010 09:22am

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Originally Posted by Thumper68 (Post 659871)
Also what is the rule reference for the eyeglasses. I know that I have read it but am having a brain cramp this morning.

Thanks,

Here's the Rule:

Rule 5 SECTION 11 CHARGED TIME-OUT
ART. 1 . . . A single 60-second time-out charged to a team shall not exceed one minute. A warning signal for the teams to prepare to be ready to resume play is sounded with 15 seconds remaining. Such a time-out shall not be reduced in length unless both teams are ready to play before the time-out is over.
ART. 2 . . . A single 30-second charged time-out shall not exceed 30 seconds.
A warning signal for teams to prepare to be ready to resume play is sounded with 15 seconds remaining. No on-court entertainment should occur during this time.
ART. 3 . . . Only one 60-second time-out is charged (or one 30-second timeout, if that is the only type of time-out remaining) in 5-8-4 regardless of the amount of time consumed when no correction is made.
EXCEPTION: No time-out is charged:
a. If, in 5-8-3, the player’s request results from displaced eyeglasses or lens.
b. If, in 5-8-4, the error or mistake is prevented or rectified.

Thumper68 Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 659881)
NFHS rule 5-11EXCEPTION(a)...includes displaced contacts. You stop the game but don't charge the player's team with a TO.

Note that "displaced shoes" are nowhere to be found in that exception.


Thank you! Thanks to Snaqwells and grunewar as well. My initial reaction was that play should have been stopped for it. I am still studying the books try to look things up before asking, but was stumped this morning.

bob jenkins Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:03am

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Originally Posted by Paul LeBoutillier (Post 659697)
That was kind of the issue Rich. As I was on Trail there was the shoe laying on the court. Do I leave it there and follow the play toward the other end of the court and hope it doesn't become an issue on the other way...or do I kick it off the court as I run by and just expect the coach to call a time out?

I would either kick it toward the bench, or beckon someone to come pick it up, depending on where the shoe was (and to whcih team it belonged).


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