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jdw3018 Fri Feb 05, 2010 01:32pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 658878)
And you're still wrong.

Read rule 9-1-3--"If the ball is to become dead when the last free throw for a specific penalty is not successful, players shall not occupy any spaces along the free-throw lane."

It's that simple.

RIF

I don't think PIAA was arguing that, he was mistakenly (as you can see from his last post he realizes it) assuming the play was dead when A was in possession of the ball. Had that been the case, then he would be correct that the game would be resumed with the free throws, not at the POI.

Jurassic Referee Fri Feb 05, 2010 01:37pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 658882)
I don't think PIAA was arguing that, he was mistakenly (as you can see from his last post he realizes it) assuming the play was dead when A was in possession of the ball. Had that been the case, then he would be correct that the game would be resumed with the free throws, not at the POI.

Yup.

gslefeb Fri Feb 05, 2010 02:02pm

If you knew that it should have been 1-1
 
Could you have waited until B1 had the ball to start the throw in, to check with the table? Therefore, no correctable error and play on?

refguy Fri Feb 05, 2010 02:10pm

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Originally Posted by gslefeb (Post 658897)
Could you have waited until B1 had the ball to start the throw in, to check with the table? Therefore, no correctable error and play on?

Interesting way to do it. That way they don't get the extra point(s).
If they shoot and miss, then kill it and put em on the line.

eg-italy Fri Feb 05, 2010 04:43pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 658881)
This particular rule is just plain and simply a bad rule (JAR, where are you when I need you?) Needs to be changed so that if the offended team scores, the timeframe for the CE expires. Right now the offended team's HC has no incentive to identify the error until after his team has had a chance to score extra points.

That's exactly how they modified in FIBA: if the team who should have shot the FT scores, the error is ignored and play resumes with an endline throw-in.
Quote:

44.3.2 Failure to award a merited free throw(s).
If there has been no change in possession of the ball since the error was made, the game shall be resumed after correction of the error as after any normal free throw.
If the same team scores after having been erroneously awarded possession of the ball for a throw-in, the error shall be disregarded.
Otherwise, the error is corrected by shooting the free throws with lane cleared and play is resumed from the point of interruption (I know, there's no POI rule in FIBA, but that's the concept).

Ciao

Raymond Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:27am

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Originally Posted by eg-italy (Post 658934)
That's exactly how they modified in FIBA: if the team who should have shot the FT scores, the error is ignored and play resumes with an endline throw-in.

Otherwise, the error is corrected by shooting the free throws with lane cleared and play is resumed from the point of interruption (I know, there's no POI rule in FIBA, but that's the concept).

Ciao

Good. FIBA has this one right.

Nevadaref Sun Feb 07, 2010 03:21am

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Originally Posted by refguy (Post 658899)
Interesting way to do it. That way they don't get the extra point(s).

Intentionally waiting when you know about the error prior to the ball becoming live would be cheating.

Quote:

Originally Posted by refguy (Post 658899)
If they shoot and miss, then kill it and put em on the line.

Depends upon which team has the arrow in its favor because the POI for the whistle in the middle of play for the CE following a missed try prior to a rebound would be the AP arrow.
Team A --> no change of team possession, line everyone up and administer the 1-1.
Team B --> opposing team is now due a throw-in, so that's a change of team possession. 1-1 with lane cleared and then resume at POI, which is the AP throw-in for Team B.

In other words, your solution doesn't help the situation. It could just make it worse.


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