Correctable Error
Well for the first time I had a correctable error.... uhhhg.
Home team has the ball in the front court. A21 is fouled. Board shows 5 fouls on visiting team. Ball is put back in play and I take a glance up at the board...it goes from 5 to 7 - crap! Home team is working their offense and HC is saying we should be shooting...home team scores. I kill it and go to the table. Get it all sorted out and confirm that indeed it was the 7th team foul. We send A21 to the line to shoot 1&1 with the lane cleared. Makes first, missed second. V got the ball for spot throw-in on the endline and we continued from there... |
After 11 years I had my first one ever too. I blame it on the oldest table staff being about 15, and them putting an "extra" foul up 30 seconds after it occurred. On the foul in question, they put it up as the 6th, then after putting ball in play, and a little while later, it goes to 7 team fouls.
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Just a thought, but couldn't you have stopped it when you saw it go from 5 to 7? I'm assuming the offense wasn't in the process of actually scoring.
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In addition to what Nevada said, how long was there between you noticing the foul count at 7 and the home team scoring? Was home in the midst of action going for a score when you saw it or were they just working the ball?
I'm just wondering if there would have been an appropriate to kill the clock before the score. Would have allowed you to shoot the FTs with everyone on the lane and eliminated the double opportunity to score from the foul. |
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If the ball had already been made live and inbounded; I don't think you could have resumed with the free throws and with players in the lane. |
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As Bob has said, the incentive seems to be to give everyone an interest in getting it right the first time; because it could end up hurting anyone depending on how it goes down. |
You should have just shot the 1-1 live. (players on lane) Since their has been no change of possession you don't need to shoot with the lane cleared. I believe case book 2.10.1 E will help you. The case book is about what to do when possession changes and doesn't. In your case you killed the play with the team entitled to the free throws still in possession. So you would just shoot the free-throws like you would normally.
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He said that he killed the play with the ball still in A's possession after the throw-in for the foul, IF that is the case you shoot the free-throws live. This would be under rule 2-10-6 (this is last yrs book) when correcting merited free throws: if there has been no change in team possession when the error was recognized. The play SHALL resume after free-throw attempts.
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Never Mind
I didn't catch the home team scores comment.
Bucket counts, clear line, shoot 1-1, player can run endline. |
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Read rule 9-1-3--"If the ball is to become dead when the last free throw for a specific penalty is not successful, players shall not occupy any spaces along the free-throw lane." It's that simple. RIF |
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All game long we want coaches to coach and let us officiate but now all of a sudden a coach is supposed to perform Quality Control for the table and officiating crew. This particular rule is just plain and simply a bad rule (JAR, where are you when I need you?) Needs to be changed so that if the offended team scores, the timeframe for the CE expires. Right now the offended team's HC has no incentive to identify the error until after his team has had a chance to score extra points. |
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If you knew that it should have been 1-1
Could you have waited until B1 had the ball to start the throw in, to check with the table? Therefore, no correctable error and play on?
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If they shoot and miss, then kill it and put em on the line. |
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Ciao |
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Team A --> no change of team possession, line everyone up and administer the 1-1. Team B --> opposing team is now due a throw-in, so that's a change of team possession. 1-1 with lane cleared and then resume at POI, which is the AP throw-in for Team B. In other words, your solution doesn't help the situation. It could just make it worse. |
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