More T or no T

slow whistle · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 10:30am

What do you guys think? Did he smack it so hard that it could not be ignored? I guess they could have gotten him for hanging on the rim too, although not sure if I agree that he did. Anyone ever pass on this same play?

YouTube - Did Gomez Deserve Technical Foul?

asdf · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 10:45am

His actions cannot be ignored. The slapping of the board had nothing to do with basketball.

No brainer T here.

slow whistle · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 10:50am

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Originally Posted by asdf

His actions cannot be ignored. The slapping of the board had nothing to do with basketball.

No brainer T here.

The cb play says that a player who strikes it "so forcefully that it cannot be ignored" should be tech'd, doesn't say anything about whether it has to do with basketball or not.

Adam · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 10:54am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle

The cb play says that a player who strikes it "so forcefully that it cannot be ignored" should be tech'd, doesn't say anything about whether it has to do with basketball or not.

The rule says if it's part of a blocked shot attempt, it should be ignored regardless of how hard it is.

slow whistle · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 11:03am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The rule says if it's part of a blocked shot attempt, it should be ignored regardless of how hard it is.

Agree, but how is that relevant in this play?

Raymond · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 11:15am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle

Agree, but how is that relevant in this play?

Can't get YouTube here at work...what did Gomez do? Dunk the basketball then smack the backboard? Did he lightly tap it or was it a full-on palm to backboard slap?

slow whistle · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 11:18am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Can't get YouTube here at work...what did Gomez do? Dunk the basketball then smack the backboard? Did he lightly tap it or was it a full-on palm to backboard slap?

It was a smack, but not overly hard IMO and he didn't scream or anything, just turned and ran down the floor. I've seen this passed on probably hundreds of times (including myself), although I did call one where there was a primal scream accompanying the smack and it was quite a bit more than a "tap".

jdw3018 · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 11:25am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle

It was a smack, but not overly hard IMO and he didn't scream or anything, just turned and ran down the floor. I've seen this passed on probably hundreds of times (including myself), although I did call one where there was a primal scream accompanying the smack and it was quite a bit more than a "tap".

Agree with your description. He slapped it with his palm, but not forcefully, no accompanying display, etc.

By rule, the T could be supported. By practice, I'm surprised this one was called. From what I see on the video I'd pass.

Of course, everything happens within a context and maybe there was something else that happened prior to this to make the officials more "touchy" on this one.

Loudwhistle · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 11:28am

The tap was so light I wouldn't have called it, if we would have yelled at the same time, T!

Indianaref · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 11:29am

What'cha got on this?

Edit: I meant to put this on another thread.

fiasco · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 11:30am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle

I've seen this passed on probably hundreds of times (including myself), although I did call one where there was a primal scream accompanying the smack and it was quite a bit more than a "tap".

I remember an NCAA Tournament game where Greg Oden slapped the backboard with two hands after a dunk and screamed. No call.

Adam · #12 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 12:24pm

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Originally Posted by slow whistle

Agree, but how is that relevant in this play?

It was more of a general statement in response to your statement that "doesn't say anything about whether it has to do with basketball or not."

jeffpea · #13 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 12:55pm

I think the group is confusing two different situations....slapping the backboard while attempting to block a shot is one thing (and legal); slapping the backboard after a dunk is an entirely different situation (and an automatic T)....

good call by the official in this game...this is a T every time it happens....

Adam · #14 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 01:04pm

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Originally Posted by jeffpea

I think the group is confusing two different situations....slapping the backboard while attempting to block a shot is one thing (and legal); slapping the backboard after a dunk is an entirely different situation (and an automatic T)....

good call by the official in this game...this is a T every time it happens....

I'm not confusing jack. I was just stating that whether it has to do with basketball is relevant.

Automatic? OK.

asdf · #15 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 05, 2010, 01:31pm

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Originally Posted by slow whistle

The cb play says that a player who strikes it "so forcefully that it cannot be ignored" should be tech'd, doesn't say anything about whether it has to do with basketball or not.

The only reason he did this is to draw attention to himself.

It has nothing to do with the game, and everyting to do about himself, which can quickly turn into retaliation and taunting.

Nip it in the bud immediately.