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slow whistle Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:30am

More T or no T
 
What do you guys think? Did he smack it so hard that it could not be ignored? I guess they could have gotten him for hanging on the rim too, although not sure if I agree that he did. Anyone ever pass on this same play?

YouTube - Did Gomez Deserve Technical Foul?

asdf Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:45am

His actions cannot be ignored. The slapping of the board had nothing to do with basketball.

No brainer T here.

slow whistle Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:50am

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Originally Posted by asdf (Post 658766)
His actions cannot be ignored. The slapping of the board had nothing to do with basketball.

No brainer T here.

The cb play says that a player who strikes it "so forcefully that it cannot be ignored" should be tech'd, doesn't say anything about whether it has to do with basketball or not.

Adam Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 658771)
The cb play says that a player who strikes it "so forcefully that it cannot be ignored" should be tech'd, doesn't say anything about whether it has to do with basketball or not.

The rule says if it's part of a blocked shot attempt, it should be ignored regardless of how hard it is.

slow whistle Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:03am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 658775)
The rule says if it's part of a blocked shot attempt, it should be ignored regardless of how hard it is.

Agree, but how is that relevant in this play?

Raymond Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:15am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 658784)
Agree, but how is that relevant in this play?

Can't get YouTube here at work...what did Gomez do? Dunk the basketball then smack the backboard? Did he lightly tap it or was it a full-on palm to backboard slap?

slow whistle Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:18am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 658795)
Can't get YouTube here at work...what did Gomez do? Dunk the basketball then smack the backboard? Did he lightly tap it or was it a full-on palm to backboard slap?

It was a smack, but not overly hard IMO and he didn't scream or anything, just turned and ran down the floor. I've seen this passed on probably hundreds of times (including myself), although I did call one where there was a primal scream accompanying the smack and it was quite a bit more than a "tap".

jdw3018 Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:25am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 658801)
It was a smack, but not overly hard IMO and he didn't scream or anything, just turned and ran down the floor. I've seen this passed on probably hundreds of times (including myself), although I did call one where there was a primal scream accompanying the smack and it was quite a bit more than a "tap".

Agree with your description. He slapped it with his palm, but not forcefully, no accompanying display, etc.

By rule, the T could be supported. By practice, I'm surprised this one was called. From what I see on the video I'd pass.

Of course, everything happens within a context and maybe there was something else that happened prior to this to make the officials more "touchy" on this one.

Loudwhistle Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:28am

The tap was so light I wouldn't have called it, if we would have yelled at the same time, T!

Indianaref Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:29am

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...atcha-got.html

Edit: I meant to put this on another thread.

fiasco Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:30am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 658801)
I've seen this passed on probably hundreds of times (including myself), although I did call one where there was a primal scream accompanying the smack and it was quite a bit more than a "tap".

I remember an NCAA Tournament game where Greg Oden slapped the backboard with two hands after a dunk and screamed. No call.

Adam Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:24pm

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 658784)
Agree, but how is that relevant in this play?

It was more of a general statement in response to your statement that "doesn't say anything about whether it has to do with basketball or not."

jeffpea Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:55pm

I think the group is confusing two different situations....slapping the backboard while attempting to block a shot is one thing (and legal); slapping the backboard after a dunk is an entirely different situation (and an automatic T)....

good call by the official in this game...this is a T every time it happens....

Adam Fri Feb 05, 2010 01:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffpea (Post 658855)
I think the group is confusing two different situations....slapping the backboard while attempting to block a shot is one thing (and legal); slapping the backboard after a dunk is an entirely different situation (and an automatic T)....

good call by the official in this game...this is a T every time it happens....

I'm not confusing jack. I was just stating that whether it has to do with basketball is relevant.

Automatic? OK. <shrug>

asdf Fri Feb 05, 2010 01:31pm

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 658771)
The cb play says that a player who strikes it "so forcefully that it cannot be ignored" should be tech'd, doesn't say anything about whether it has to do with basketball or not.

The only reason he did this is to draw attention to himself.

It has nothing to do with the game, and everyting to do about himself, which can quickly turn into retaliation and taunting.

Nip it in the bud immediately.


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