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jalons Thu Feb 04, 2010 02:46pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 658363)
For the record Hartzell left UNI a few years later.
And that added another 30-40 games to his schedule.

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 658363)
I actually knew Hartzell's wife as she was an official too and she worked games in front of me at the JUCO level on the Women's side.
Actually she's still an official. :D

truerookie Thu Feb 04, 2010 02:54pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 658310)
May not be true. What if they work a game in which a certain team losing would greatly benefit their nephew's team? Or what if one of the teams in that game plays their nephew's team next and they eject their top player so he must sit out that next contest?

There can be many problems.
Its my belief that, we as official(most of us) truly conduct ourselves in a professional manner, so as not to give the perception that we would be bias. So, your points may be validity to them, but imo unlikely.

JRutledge Thu Feb 04, 2010 02:58pm
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 658487)
But fans are the ones who complain to those who decide who will work the games. It trickles down.
Not in the places I work. Then again, there are too many games for me to worry about what one group of fans think. ;)

Peace

Raymond Thu Feb 04, 2010 04:14pm
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 658487)
But fans are the ones who complain to those who decide who will work the games. It trickles down.
??? 99.8% of the fans around here don't have the slightest idea who assigns games.

Shoot, I work games at my son's high school (he doesn't play) and most of the staff at the game don't even know I'm a parent of a student at their school.

Adam Thu Feb 04, 2010 04:18pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 658540)
??? 99.8% of the fans around here don't have the slightest idea who assigns games.

Shoot, I work games at my son's high school (he doesn't play) and most of the staff at the game don't even know I'm a parent of a student at their school.
My daughter (9) asked me a few weeks back if I will block her high school when she gets there (scary hypothetical of the week). I told her the only way I'd block her school is if she has friends on one of the teams or if she's playing.

JRutledge Thu Feb 04, 2010 04:28pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 658540)
??? 99.8% of the fans around here don't have the slightest idea who assigns games.
And in my area this is probably even a higher percentage. ;)

Peace

bigbeardedbryan Thu Feb 04, 2010 07:14pm
The Catholic school in my hometown assigns its chaplain as one of the referees for each of its boys and girls varsity games. Not quite family, but still a pretty obvious conflict of interest.

jdw3018 Thu Feb 04, 2010 07:24pm
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Originally Posted by bigbeardedbryan (Post 658594)
The Catholic school in my hometown assigns its chaplain as one of the referees for each of its boys and girls varsity games. Not quite family, but still a pretty obvious conflict of interest.
This, to me, would strike me as a much bigger conflict of interest than an aunt/uncle/niece/nephew issue.

eyezen Thu Feb 04, 2010 07:38pm
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Originally Posted by beverly100 (Post 658283)
my high school team is in a 1a division that is made up of seven schools. two of the refs that is working our games are brother-in laws. they have a nephew that plays on a team that is in our conference. they always work together at the game. should they be booked in our conference or ref at their nephews games?
IMO, working a game in the same conference is perfectly acceptable, but working a game involving the nephew is too close at the HS level, we could look the other way at the ms or rec level

just another ref Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:20am
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 658540)
??? 99.8% of the fans around here don't have the slightest idea who assigns games.
I was talking about principals, ADs, etc.

Raymond Fri Feb 05, 2010 08:59am
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 658657)
I was talking about principals, ADs, etc.
They play no part in assigning officials around here.

just another ref Fri Feb 05, 2010 09:16am
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 658696)
They play no part in assigning officials around here.
A school can't say "Don't send that official here," in your area?

Adam Fri Feb 05, 2010 09:56am
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 658711)
A school can't say "Don't send that official here," in your area?
I can't speak for BNR, but I'm not aware of any such ability here.

SAJ Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:20am
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 658696)
They play no part in assigning officials around here.
They do here.

Texas Aggie Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:29am
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Should Hartzell be forced to give up working D-I basketball cause he's an AD at a D-I school?
Oh, please. This isn't even close to the situation of someone working a game involving a family member -- even a distant one. I could take a D-1 AD job right now and have an easier time working a game in that conference (not that I would do that) than I would working the conference of the college I went to.


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