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mick Thu Aug 29, 2002 07:42am
Re: devdog69:
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Ref in PA
If B1 did not give A2 a chance to avoid B1, I have a block on B1. Books defines chance as a step. You have to see the play, but what you described sounds like a block.
Yeah, Ref in PA,
Sounds like devdog69 wrote the definition of Blocking, "...impedes the progress of an opponent with or without the ball."

mick

eroe39 Thu Aug 29, 2002 09:27am
Devdog, I concur with the previous responses: foul.

A Pennsylvania Coach Thu Aug 29, 2002 10:47am
soccer terminology
 
Quote:
Originally posted by dblref

Just a small point of clarification -- I think I remember this from my soccer referee days. If the ball is going "out of touch" - i.e., going out of bounds, you can legally screen an opponent from the ball as long as you do not hold your opponent. Obstruction should not be called if the ball is within playing distance. You do not have to play the ball, it just has to be within "playing distance".

I think that when the ball goes out of bounds in soccer, it doesn't go "OUT of touch", it goes "INTO touch".

bob jenkins Thu Aug 29, 2002 11:23am
Re: devdog69:
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Ref in PA
If B1 did not give A2 a chance to avoid B1, I have a block on B1. Books defines chance as a step. You have to see the play, but what you described sounds like a block.
Which book is that? My FED rules book says "The distance need not be more than two strides" (4-19-5) and "The position will vary and may be one or two normal steps or strides from the opponent." (10-6-3c).

LarryS Thu Aug 29, 2002 04:30pm
Re: Re: devdog69:
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bob jenkins
Quote:
Originally posted by Ref in PA
If B1 did not give A2 a chance to avoid B1, I have a block on B1. Books defines chance as a step. You have to see the play, but what you described sounds like a block.
Which book is that? My FED rules book says "The distance need not be more than two strides" (4-19-5) and "The position will vary and may be one or two normal steps or strides from the opponent." (10-6-3c).
Looks like he was referring to the FED book. "The position will vary and may be ONE or two normal steps or strides from the opponent." (10-6-3c).

dblref Fri Aug 30, 2002 06:54am
Re: soccer terminology
 
Quote:
Originally posted by A Pennsylvania Coach
Quote:
Originally posted by dblref

Just a small point of clarification -- I think I remember this from my soccer referee days. If the ball is going "out of touch" - i.e., going out of bounds, you can legally screen an opponent from the ball as long as you do not hold your opponent. Obstruction should not be called if the ball is within playing distance. You do not have to play the ball, it just has to be within "playing distance".

I think that when the ball goes out of bounds in soccer, it doesn't go "OUT of touch", it goes "INTO touch".
I knew when I wrote that I might be wrong. Haven't reffed soccer in 3 years and was trying to "remember".

Rainmaker: Yelling at the soccer ref was how I became involved with officiating in the mid-70's. Both of my sons played select and high school soccer. When I started "yelling" at the officials, my lovely wife told me to "put up or shut up" and I did. Why is she always right?

rainmaker Fri Aug 30, 2002 04:55pm
Re: Re: soccer terminology
 
Quote:
Originally posted by dblref
Why is she always right?
Could you come here and do a seminar where you teach coaches around here to repeat these words as often as possible...


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