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doubleringer Tue Feb 02, 2010 02:11pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 657524)
Really...one player tells another player "I'll kick your $#%^$% a$$" using a racist/bigoted term in place of '$#%^$% a$$' and you're just gonna write it off as a run-of-the-mill 'T'?

Yes. Normally after the T, the coach pulls the kid aside and calms them down. Let the coach have an opportunity to coach and deal with the kid. I think the state and my assignors would not look favorably on tossing someone for words or language.

DLH17 Tue Feb 02, 2010 03:38pm

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Originally Posted by Juulie Downs (Post 657484)
I might. Along with "fag", "gay" if it's used in an offensive manner, and other such words.

What if a player called another player "hetero" or "straight"? In an offensive manner, of course?

Smitty Tue Feb 02, 2010 03:42pm

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Originally Posted by DLH17 (Post 657857)
What if a player called another player "hetero" or "straight"? In an offensive manner, of course?

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DLH17 Tue Feb 02, 2010 03:44pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 657858)

Seriously! :p

constable Tue Feb 02, 2010 04:02pm

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Originally Posted by doubleringer (Post 657833)
Yes. Normally after the T, the coach pulls the kid aside and calms them down. Let the coach have an opportunity to coach and deal with the kid. I think the state and my assignors would not look favorably on tossing someone for words or language.


Glad I don't work in your state.

That should be a flagrant. The threat is one thing, but the racial remark is unacceptable.

slow whistle Tue Feb 02, 2010 04:07pm

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Originally Posted by constable (Post 657866)
Glad I don't work in your state.

That should be a flagrant. The threat is one thing, but the racial remark is unacceptable.

Ha ha this is great. If I threaten to chop your legs out from under you that is one thing, but if I offend your sensitivities you're outta here!

constable Tue Feb 02, 2010 04:10pm

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Originally Posted by doubleringer (Post 657833)
Yes. Normally after the T, the coach pulls the kid aside and calms them down. Let the coach have an opportunity to coach and deal with the kid. I think the state and my assignors would not look favorably on tossing someone for words or language.


what if the kid told you that you ****ing suck? would your superiors be upset at you for tossing that kid based on "words or language" ?

constable Tue Feb 02, 2010 04:18pm

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 657868)
Ha ha this is great. If I threaten to chop your legs out from under you that is one thing, but if I offend your sensitivities you're outta here!


I'm not saying I wouldn't eject for the threat- I probably would. I am saying the racial slur is as close to "automatic" as I have.

Raymond Tue Feb 02, 2010 04:24pm

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Originally Posted by doubleringer (Post 657833)
Yes. Normally after the T, the coach pulls the kid aside and calms them down. Let the coach have an opportunity to coach and deal with the kid. I think the state and my assignors would not look favorably on tossing someone for words or language.

Guess if we ever work together we will have to pre-game that. :cool:

theboys Tue Feb 02, 2010 04:46pm

In my younger, more foolish days I played in a CHURCH rec league. On one occasion an opponent threatened "to take me out" if I tried to box him out again. Because he looked angry I assumed he wasn't flirting with me. I just laughed and asked if he had gone to church that morning.

mbyron Tue Feb 02, 2010 05:10pm

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 657868)
Ha ha this is great. If I threaten to chop your legs out from under you that is one thing, but if I offend your sensitivities you're outta here!

I wouldn't classify it under "offended sensibilities" or "hurt feelings," but rather "fighting words."

And yes, I'm referring to the "fighting words doctrine" of Constitutional law. Though I wouldn't mention that when I T'd up the offender.

Juulie Downs Tue Feb 02, 2010 05:54pm

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Originally Posted by DLH17 (Post 657857)
What if a player called another player "hetero" or "straight"? In an offensive manner, of course?

LOL!! You have a cute sense of humor...:D


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