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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 12:24pm
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Sub never reported during TO

So last night we're coming out of a TO 3 mins into the game. Players line up for a throw-in on the endline. As my partner is handing the ball to the thrower, I see the scorer waving at me to come over. I get on my whistle and approach the table. He says "35 white never reported into the game." I asked to be sure "he never came to the table and no coaches reported for him?" No is the answer. I am now thinking "great, this has never happened to me before. What do we do?"

Put 35 white back at the table and move on, correct?
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 12:27pm
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So last night we're coming out of a TO 3 mins into the game. Players line up for a throw-in on the endline. As my partner is handing the ball to the thrower, I see the scorer waving at me to come over. I get on my whistle and approach the table. He says "35 white never reported into the game." I asked to be sure "he never came to the table and no coaches reported for him?" No is the answer. I am now thinking "great, this has never happened to me before. What do we do?"

Put 35 white back at the table and move on, correct?
What level?

By rule, you have an illegal sub, T on #35.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 12:32pm
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What level?

By rule, you have an illegal sub, T on #35.
What about casebook 3.3.3 sit B - once a player enters, even illegally and the ball becomes live there is no provision for penalizing?
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 12:34pm
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What about casebook 3.3.3 sit B - once a player enters, even illegally and the ball becomes live there is no provision for penalizing?
It's not clear in the OP whether the ball actually became live. If it did, no penalty, resume with the throw-in. If it didn't, by rule you have the technical foul.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 12:35pm
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it's not clear in the op whether the ball actually became live. If it did, no penalty, resume with the throw-in. If it didn't, by rule you have the technical foul.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 12:37pm
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Agree with both of you, I assumed he had the ball, but we don't know. Still wondering about the handing of the ball.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 12:28pm
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I'm thinking once the ball becomes live you leave him in the game and play on. You said "as your partner was handing the ball" - first did he hand it or bounce it (why would he hand it?)? Secondly did the shooter have the ball at his disposal when you blew your whistle?
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 12:49pm
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You said "as your partner was handing the ball" - first did he hand it or bounce it (why would he hand it?)? Secondly did the shooter have the ball at his disposal when you blew your whistle?
I think you misread his post. It was an end line throw-in, not a free throw.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 12:57pm
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Welpe,

That doesn't matter as the ball is live once the throw in begins.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 01:00pm
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Welpe,

That doesn't matter as the ball is live once the throw in begins.
Agreed. I was responding to his question about handing the ball to the thrower.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 01:22pm
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Yep sure did thanks! That solves that issue, but still doesn't tell us if the ball was live yet.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 12:30pm
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So last night we're coming out of a TO 3 mins into the game. Players line up for a throw-in on the endline. As my partner is handing the ball to the thrower, I see the scorer waving at me to come over. I get on my whistle and approach the table. He says "35 white never reported into the game." I asked to be sure "he never came to the table and no coaches reported for him?" No is the answer. I am now thinking "great, this has never happened to me before. What do we do?"

Put 35 white back at the table and move on, correct?
Once the sub was in the game and the ball became live, there is no longer a penalty that can be assesed. (3.3.3) Since your partner already handed the ball to the thrower it is a live ball.
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