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biz Wed Jan 20, 2010 09:05am
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Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin (Post 653472)
Welmer is almost 60 years old. He has been at the highest level for more than 25 years. He isn't worried about "extending" his career, he wants another shot at THE Dance!

As for INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS, well, they are their own business, and they are able to dictate how much or how little they can handle.

As for the rest of us who wish we were in his shoes . . . the door is opening, now what are we going to do about it. ;)
I assume that Mr. Welmer enjoys what he does and would like to continue for as long as possible.

As for the Final Four...bigdog, do you really think he has any shot at a Final Four? He hasn't worked the tournament at all for the last two years, and he worked one game each in 2006 and 2007.

Now you and I would love to have worked a career that even remotely resembles his and I would come close to killing for one shot to work a game in the NCAA tourney, but he's been there and done that. Judging by his recent record I would be shocked if he ever got the chance to work the FF even if he comes back completely healthy

mbyron Wed Jan 20, 2010 09:16am
His assignors will be looking for a replacement.

I'm available. :)

Bishopcolle Wed Jan 20, 2010 09:27am
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 653454)
So? I've had one for over a year.

Seriously, mine is a mild one and it has slowed me down somewhat, going in late March. Hope Welmer is back next season.
Same here...I just had it done, and two weeks recuperating...back at the job now...these tears are a part of living the ref life....I had both knees done 15 years ago, and now the left one this month....It happens....

Adam Wed Jan 20, 2010 09:49am
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 653604)
His assignors will be looking for a replacement.

I'm available. :)
Shameless. ;)

deecee Wed Jan 20, 2010 01:00pm
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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 653483)
Division I basketball is a 5+ month season. Started in early November this year, the regular season concludes with conference championships the second week of March. That's 4.5 months. If you include post-season tournaments that last another month you have 5.5 months. Considering many of these officials are also working a few scrimmages before the season starts you could conceivable work pretty steady for almost 6 months.
That still leaves 6 months of R&R. Plenty of time to ready oneself for the next season. Besides I dont need any one putting a limit on how much I can work. Either I can or I cant.

jdw3018 Wed Jan 20, 2010 01:06pm
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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 653720)
That still leaves 6 months of R&R. Plenty of time to ready oneself for the next season. Besides I dont need any one putting a limit on how much I can work. Either I can or I cant.
I'm not disagreeing with you. Just pointing out that 5+ months of working high level college basketball with only a day or two off each month is some significant pounding on the body.

I completely defend the right of an official to take as many games as he feels he can call.

grunewar Wed Jan 20, 2010 01:10pm
Shameless?
 
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 653604)
His assignors will be looking for a replacement.

I'm available. :)
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 653622)
Shameless. ;)
Snaq - Are you kidding? mb, according to a thread he started earlier TODAY, said he worked his first GV HS game last year and his first BV game LAST NIGHT!

Shameless?

mb is prepping himself for stardom baby. He's certainly on the fast track. Alas, we all knew him when...! :p

Welpe Wed Jan 20, 2010 01:13pm
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 653727)
mb is prepping himself for stardom baby. He's certainly on the fast track. Alas, we all knew him when...! :p
I didn't realize mbyron had moved to Southern California.

GoodwillRef Wed Jan 20, 2010 01:18pm
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Originally Posted by doubleringer (Post 653433)
In my opinion, it got him at roughly $200,000 a year in officiating wages. I'd be ok with that. :D It is up to each individual to figure out how often they want to work. He's carried a full schedule like that for years. Unfortunately injuries happen to everyone. I'll never be a men's official, but I'd take a Welmer on his 25th day in a row before a lot of other officials. That guy knows how to run a game.

115-120 games a year...$200,000 is probably a low estimate.

mj Wed Jan 20, 2010 03:43pm
JD Collins hasn't worked since the end of December. Is he hurt too? He's one of my favorites to watch...

Adam Wed Jan 20, 2010 03:50pm
I thought about Welmer last night as my wife and I were watching "How I Met Your Mother" on DVR. It's the episode where Robin finds out she's the subject of a drinking game.

Adam Wed Jan 20, 2010 03:51pm
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 653730)
I didn't realize mbyron had moved to Southern California.
OMG, that's funny!

deecee Wed Jan 20, 2010 05:28pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 653804)
OMG, that's funny!
I dont get the reference to Southern California here?

Adam Wed Jan 20, 2010 05:32pm
I can't find it quickly, but you might be able to search for the reference. We had a hot-shot official from SoCal come in here a while back claiming their training programs were so far superior to anywhere else, and their officials likewise far superior to anywhere else, that guys were ready to work college ball in their third year.

Welpe Wed Jan 20, 2010 05:38pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 653860)
I can't find it quickly, but you might be able to search for the reference. We had a hot-shot official from SoCal come in here a while back claiming their training programs were so far superior to anywhere else, and their officials likewise far superior to anywhere else, that guys were ready to work college ball in their third year.
That would be this gem of a thread. A reference to the EGSDOTU was made as well. Happy reading.

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