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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:51pm
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Now where is that game report from Friday night? I am guessing there was a 'no show'.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:55pm
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Now where is that game report from Friday night? I am guessing there was a 'no show'.
Probably in the process of writing it down.

Considering Rookiedude had an additional witness present, his brother.

We've done games together b4, where I've done scoreboard/timer & he as official.

Only of course, those were Sub-Varsity games.
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Old Mon Jan 18, 2010, 12:15am
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I had a legit question concerning a rule interp. Play was dead at the time, so there was no IH.

As I said before, out of sight, out of mind on things. Concerning the undershirt being a different color than the jersey, kinda hard to ignore.
Because it's a non-varsity game.

You asked during a substitution and don't think it interrupted the game?

Ya got (Walla Walla) onions, that's for sure.
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Old Mon Jan 18, 2010, 12:32am
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I'm just going to echo Bob on this one. Around here, we do enforce this at the JV level (did it last night with the first sub of the game), but I would not take kindly to the table asking me why it wasn't being enforced.
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I'm just going to echo Bob on this one. Around here, we do enforce this at the JV level (did it last night with the first sub of the game), but I would not take kindly to the table asking me why it wasn't being enforced.
We are supposed to enforce the apparel regulations at all levels of HS play (Fr, JV, and V), but some officials don't bother.
If I didn't notice such an infraction and the table crew brought it to my attention, I wouldn't mind and I would deal with the issue at that time.
I'm not threatened by a scorer asking me about a rule. I know the rules pretty well.
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We are supposed to enforce the apparel regulations at all levels of HS play (Fr, JV, and V), but some officials don't bother.
If I didn't notice such an infraction and the table crew brought it to my attention, I wouldn't mind and I would deal with the issue at that time.
I'm not threatened by a scorer asking me about a rule. I know the rules pretty well.
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Nevada,

How I asked was that I mentioned that according to my understanding of the rules, aren't undershirts to be the same color as the jersey.

I didn't mention the rule or rule # specifically. This was the reaction I was getting was they don't worry about it. Since that was the response I got, I again let bygones be bygones.

For everyone else,

I am mentioning what happened, as to me it seemed a bit odd that the rules as a whole seem to not be fully enforced at all levels of play. However, since again officials have the only say I just went off of what was told.
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We are supposed to enforce the apparel regulations at all levels of HS play (Fr, JV, and V), but some officials don't bother.
If I didn't notice such an infraction and the table crew brought it to my attention, I wouldn't mind and I would deal with the issue at that time.
I'm not threatened by a scorer asking me about a rule. I know the rules pretty well.
Just my thoughts.
Well you are wrong in many situations. Many states do not have strict enforcement of uniform rules at the other levels. And yes that includes lower level games. Most of the time the kids are in "warm-up" jerseys that do not fit all the regulations that apply. It is not about choice, it is about practice for many. That is certainly the case where I live and undershirts are not a major concern at the lower levels.

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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:27pm
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Speaking of uniform rules/regulations, rule 3-5-5 states:
Undershirts shall be a single solid color similar to the torso of the jersey & shall be hemmed & not have frayed or ragged edges. If the undershirt has sleeves, they shall be the same length. A visible manufacturer's logo/trademark/reference is not permitted on the undershirt.

During the Boys' C-Squad game the other night, V13 had a black undershirt on underneath a red jersey. During a dead ball, I buzzed the horn & asked about the player having the different undershirt color than jersey, the official's reponse was in non-Varsity contests they don't worry about it.

After asking, I noticed that H40 had a white undershirt on underneath a yellow jersey.

The reason why I asked was that I was curious about why the rule enforcement wasn't there.

To answer everyone's question, no Rookiedude was not one of the officials for that game.
How do I say this tactfully.........

As the clock operator you have absolutely no business interrupting the game for something like this. Why the rule is or is not being enforced is none of your business and you need to butt out.

'nuff said!
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 11:04pm
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Speaking of uniform rules/regulations, rule 3-5-5 states:
Undershirts shall be a single solid color similar to the torso of the jersey & shall be hemmed & not have frayed or ragged edges. If the undershirt has sleeves, they shall be the same length. A visible manufacturer's logo/trademark/reference is not permitted on the undershirt.

During the Boys' C-Squad game the other night, V13 had a black undershirt on underneath a red jersey. During a dead ball, I buzzed the horn & asked about the player having the different undershirt color than jersey, the official's reponse was in non-Varsity contests they don't worry about it.

After asking, I noticed that H40 had a white undershirt on underneath a yellow jersey.

The reason why I asked was that I was curious about why the rule enforcement wasn't there.

To answer everyone's question, no Rookiedude was not one of the officials for that game.
Exactly what everyone else is saying.... stay outta the officials bidness.

If you want to know, wait until after the game. However, do not interrupt the game because you want to know why/why not a rule isn't being enforced.


Now, back to the OP.

If you log into your Center and click on basketball ("BK") under the case situations you'll find the list of schools who currently have a waiver. Now, even though there's a published list, the coach still must show the waiver to game officials before the game to avoid being accessed a technical foul.
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