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COMMENTS ON THE 2005-06 RULES REVISIONS JERSEYS/PANTS/SKIRTS PROHIBITED FROM BEING REMOVED (3-4-15, 10-3-7h, 10-4-1h): A team member is prohibited from removing his/her jersey and/or pants/skirt within the confines of the playing area. The penalty is a technical foul. The former uniform rule didn't require team members to actually wear the team uniform. This addition also addresses a growing behavioral concern of players removing their jerseys to demonstrate frustration or anger and as a means of attracting individual attention. The rule is intended to be applied in all situations - even when a player must change uniforms due to blood or other unusual circumstances. It is not unreasonable to expect team members to go to their locker rooms to change their jerseys. As you can plainly see the situation posed is exactly that of the intent of rule-writers. Notwithstanding the comments of those who would look the other way because they think that they know better than those who sit on the committee or believe that improper enforcement will advance their officiating careers. ![]() |
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I have advised you of the rule. I have given you the NFHS description of its intent and purpose from when it was introduced. I have even given you a specific case play ruling for the given situation, which explicitly instructs the official what to call. If you elect to handle this differently, then that's totally up to you. The definite end is when the officials leave the visual confines. That's in the rules too. ![]() Quote:
The local governing authority for those games would have to make a ruling as to how to handle your scenario. Something such as when the clock starts for the pre-game warm-up for the next contest or when the new teams take the floor, etc. |
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Side bar: So if a coach places one foot outside the coaching box, you going to call a technical foul, correct? |
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This is apples v oranges. What is the difference when a player removes jersey in OP and a player/coach acting unsporting after the final horn? You haven't left the visual confines in either situation. How will you handle it?
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Removing the jersey is another. A player removing his jersey can conceivably be done in an unsporting manner, but can also be conceivably done to let the player's little brother wear it. Yet in Nevada each should be punished with a technical foul.
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Sho, you right. I understood where the OP and everyone else is coming from on both sides of the fence. The point I was attempting to make is. We know by rule this should be punished. Yet, we want to pick and choose what rules and when we want to inforced them. I know don't be a plumber either. Once again I get it. Personally, would I call this. I can't honestly say. I know when the final horn sounds and I'm not the Referee I am high tailing out of there especially a game that close.
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It's also a T for every assistant coach who ever stands up and yells out a play or a defense and then sits back down. See, there are no shades in basketball officiating...no judgment is ever involved. It's all black and white and written right there for all to see. To not follow every single letter of the rules is to be less of an official... ![]() |
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I swear, Gus, you'd argue with a possum. It'd be easier than arguing with you, Woodrow. Lonesome Dove Last edited by just another ref; Mon Nov 28, 2011 at 03:02am. |
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We get to use our best judgment. Since this rule is aimed at sportsmanship and expressions of disgust or hostility, I think it's perfectly reasonable, and not even remotely pussilanimous to judge that the kid is just in a hurry to get to his job, or is simply trying to avoid the locker room problems, or doesn't know that there's a problem, and is just getting on with his life. None of those situations have anything to do with sportsmanship, and the game is over, and everyone is moving on with their lives. Why throw the bus into reverse, strip the gears, run over a couple or twenty fans, and ruin the entire evening for everyone, if the so-called problem (unsportsmanlike behavior) doesn't even exist?
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