Flagrant or Intentional?

[Welpe]

Thanks for the responses so far.

Yes, I did call this an intentional personal foul. The offensive player didn't throw the ball at the defender, she held it in her hands and clubbed her with it. As Snaqs said, I thought it fit into the category of "illegal contact".

Tomegun, good point about the instant on. This was still very early in the game, so I don't think there was too much to provoke her (maybe some past history I was not aware of). But I noticed the rest of the game, she was playing in a rather reckless manner, and not really playing with much control.

During another play in the second half, she committed a player control foul when she picked up her dribble, got frustrated and shoved the defender guarding her with one hand. I called a PC foul, probably should've called that one intentional too.

Calling the first one flagrant probably would've been the prudent move. Now I'm kind of annoyed with myself for not doing it.

Thanks everyone, please keep the comments coming.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Thanks for the responses so far.

Yes, I did call this an intentional personal foul. The offensive player didn't throw the ball at the defender, she held it in her hands and clubbed her with it. As Snaqs said, I thought it fit into the category of "illegal contact".

Tomegun, good point about the instant on. This was still very early in the game, so I don't think there was too much to provoke her (maybe some past history I was not aware of). But I noticed the rest of the game, she was playing in a rather reckless manner, and not really playing with much control.

Girls don't need a lot of time to flip the switch.

Originally Posted by Welpe

During another play in the second half, she committed a player control foul when she picked up her dribble, got frustrated and shoved the defender guarding her with one hand. I called a PC foul, probably should've called that one intentional too.

Calling the first one flagrant probably would've been the prudent move. Now I'm kind of annoyed with myself for not doing it.

You just made me frown and crinkle my brow. It sounds like you had a legit opportunity to get rid of a bad apple early on and you didn't do it.

My buddy has a saying that goes like this, "Kill em all before we get to camp because we don't have enough provisions to feed them!"

In other words, handle your business before they come back to kick you in the______.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by tomegun

You just made me frown and crinkle my brow. It sounds like you had a legit opportunity to get rid of a bad apple early on and you didn't do it.

Sounds like you're probably right. But at least you're helping to make me a better official and arming me with the knowledge to properly take care of business in the future. It seems like such an obvious call now.

Thanks.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Sounds like you're probably right. But at least you're helping to make me a better official and arming me with the knowledge to properly take care of business in the future. It seems like such an obvious call now.

Thanks.

No problem. This is the kind of discussion that used to be handled at the local bar/restaurant, but everyone is so busy now.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Girls don't need a lot of time to flip the switch.



You just made me frown and crinkle my brow. It sounds like you had a legit opportunity to get rid of a bad apple early on and you didn't do it.

My buddy has a saying that goes like this, "Kill em all before we get to camp because we don't have enough provisions to feed them!"

In other words, handle your business before they come back to kick you in the______.

Put another way, no good deed goes unpunished.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by tomegun

My buddy has a saying that goes like this, "Kill em all before we get to camp because we don't have enough provisions to feed them!"

I'm having a Homer moment.

Help me.

Exactly who are we to kill before we get to camp ?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I'm having a Homer moment.

Help me.

Exactly who are we to kill before we get to camp ?

The baby dolphins.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The baby dolphins.

Shooting baby dolphins in my part of the world is fightin words.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I'm having a Homer moment.

Help me.

Exactly who are we to kill before we get to camp ?

Well, he is one of those guys that say things that make you need a translator. If you took some hostages back to camp, as opposed to killing them, you would have to feed them.

I give up, translate it to mean whatever you would like...baby dolphins, puppies, etc.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Well, he is one of those guys that say things that make you need a translator. If you took some hostages back to camp, as opposed to killing them, you would have to feed them.

I give up, translate it to mean whatever you would like...baby dolphins, puppies, etc.

thank you, Homer moment has passed.